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Gulfton, Houston

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 * A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style; it can be found on the automated peer review page for November 2008.

This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I would like to see this become a featured article; it is already listed as a good article, but I think this can become something even greater.

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 01:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: Very briefly, here are some suggestions for improvement. Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:16, 19 November 2008 (UTC) WhisperToMe (talk) 00:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Places in the United States are almost always named "Place, State" (see Houston, Texas for example). Why is this not named Gulfton, Houston, Texas?
 * The lead needs to be expanded to 2 or 3 paragraphs. The lead should be an accessible and inviting overview of the whole article. Nothing important should be in the lead only - since it is a summary, it should all be repeated in the body of the article itself. My rule of thumb is to include every header in the lead in some way. Please see WP:LEAD
 * The lead sentence makes it sound like there are only low rent apartment compleexes there, but the article makes it clear there are schools, libraries, businesses, etc there too.
 * Despite the maps, I am not clear where the borders are or where this is relative to the rest of Metro Houston - could there be a locator map
 * References should be in numerical order, so fix things like HPL Express facilities are library facilities located in existing buildings.[120][40]
 * Internet refs need URL, title, author if known, publisher and date accessed. cite web and other cite templates may be helpful. See WP:CITE and WP:V
 * Seems like there are too many pictures of schools and several sections that have no pictures at all.
 * Thanks for the feedback! Here are a few things I thought of:
 * 1. This is not an independent city, nor is it an unincorporated area. This is a neighborhood of Houston. This was named "Gulfton, Houston, Texas" but a user moved all Houston neighborhoods to "X, Houston"
 * I think the names should be changed back. I also think the lead needs to make clearer that this is a neighborhood - just reread the lead and neighborhood does not appear in it. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want the names changed back, please start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Houston and we will be happy to hear your rationale. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2. I will correct the reference orders.
 * 3. Regarding the borders, Susan Rogers gave a definition of the "boundaries" of Gulfton - So I could modify the image and add the boundary according to Rogers's map.
 * COuld the borders be overlaid on the maps? Could a map of Houston with a red dot showing Gulfton be made? Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I could see if I could find a map of Houston showing the municipal boundaries and put a dot of a different color on it. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 4. Some of these references, even though they are on the internet, originate in published works (i.e. newspapers, TV channel websites), so I did not include access date in many of them. I tend to only include access date on things which do not have dates attached to them per se. If you want I could simply generate new access dates for newspaper articles, etc. Also some of the internet refs I found have no author, per se. I only attach authors if I know an exact authorship.
 * If something is available on the internet and then is changed / moves / disappears, having the access date helps to locate the version you accessed for this. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Usually news publications stay the same. Although URLs do change, the web publications themselves often stay the same (but are in a different area) - however access dates can help in that respect. I also love web.archive.org as I can use that to access prior materials that vanished. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)