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Harvest (Numb3rs)
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I just want to see if any improvements can be made to the article. Thanks, SciGal (talk) 15:44, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd recommend expanding the lead. Probably two paragraphs long. If any of the secondary sources describe any visual elements of the episode, it would be nice to illustrate that with an image (which has a good fair use rational, see WP:NFCC). "Origin of the Episode" should probably be "Production", and if you leave it, "Episode" should not be capitalized. The rule is that we only capitalize the first word of section headers, unless they contain a proper noun or similar. It would also be nice if there a bit more about the production. If the DVD contains commentary on the episode, that is a good place to find production details. The little reference numbers should go after punctuation, not before. It looks like it hasn't "won or has been nominated for several awards." but won one, and been nominated for one. It's good to be specific. Nice article overall. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 17:42, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

From Liquidluck (talk): Nice, neat plot summary, and I think Peregrine Fisher hit on everything else. If you have questions, please post on my talk page. Good luck! Liquidluck (talk) 01:17, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Peregrine Fisher above; follow what he or she said.
 * Delink the airdate in the lead per MOS for dates.
 * Delete the "(a fictitious mathematics prize)"; Since it is a plot summary of a work of fiction, it can be assumed it is fictional. You may want to change the "Milton Prize" to "a prestigious mathematics award", though.
 * "determine the time of death as earlier in the day." The time of death of who? Currently, the plot makes it sound as though it was Santi. Please clarify.
 * "the team learn that Santi and Prita's other friend had died" Is this the same friend Santi identified earlier?
 * Add the airdate to the reception section.
 * 13.22 million it what country? Also, please add that they saw it live.
 * There aren't any actual television critic opinions here. I would split this section up; first viewership, then responses from critics (you might find these in episode recaps by reliable sites), and finally responses from experts.
 * This isn't a rule, but references generally go on the outside of punctuation. It isn't required, however, so do as you please.
 * Overall, Wikilink way more. Algorithm, organ donation, I'd even say black market.

Thanks, guys. I am making corrections to the article, although I still have more to go.SciGal (talk) 19:36, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Comments from Mm40 (talk)

I don't think this is far from GA. I think possible expansion could be done on production; if the season has come out on DVD and you have, watch the directors commentary. I'm just going to give some comments on how to massage the prose (although this isn't needed for GA).


 * General
 * HLA is a disambiguation link
 * The date uses inconsistent date formats. References use date then month, but the body of the article uses month day. I would prefer month day because this is an American topic.


 * Lead
 * I think the lead needs to be expanded, but I'm not sure with what.
 * "Inspired on a Christian Science Monitor" what do you mean "on"?
 * What is an "organ tourist"? The article never defines the term
 * link algorithm in the lead
 * Add "After airing on January 27, 2009" before "the episode received a mixed reaction". The date aired is needed to give an overview of the article, which the lead is supposed to be
 * The last sentence of the lead is awkward: "however" seems to be indicating something negative, but the awards are positive. Also, per WP:AVOID, "however should be avoided. I suggest: "It has inspired academic case studies and received two awards." or something similar.


 * Plot Summary
 * "Summary" in the header should be lowercased per MoS:HEAD
 * "call to a hotel and find" I don't like "to a" here; I would replace it with "from a"
 * "blood-stained hotel basement" you repeat "hotel" twice; it's redundant here
 * "goes to the hospital to see if Santi's sister is at the hospital and finds" repeats "the hospital" twice
 * "them that it was a friend of theirs" replace "it" with "she"
 * "that there was a friend who is also missing" can be reworded as "that there was another missing friend"
 * "team learn that" should have "learns"
 * In the last paragraph, the average reader doesn't know what "HLA" is. Spell it out in full
 * "team rescue Prita" should have "rescues"
 * "use her money from her prize" would sound better if the first "her" was changed to "the"
 * "case has caused her to learn" I think "inspired" would be better than "caused"
 * "Alan" is not talked about in the article, so is unfamiliar to most readers
 * The last sentence is unclear: Don learned Alan needed an organ transplant so only Charlie became a donor? Or did both become donors?


 * Origin of the episode
 * The section title should be Origin or Background
 * Is Hardin's last name spelled incorrectly in the first sentence?


 * Reception
 * The first two sentences can be combined
 * Reference 5 (CBS) can use cite press release.
 * "The first case study was a" you can remove "case study" because it's clear form the previous sentence what you're talking about
 * Link George Washington University School of Public Health and Health Services
 * I think "consultation" should be replaced with "consulting"
 * Link University of Southern California and Purdue University
 * per MOS:QUOTE, change the curly quotes and the curly apostrophe after Vickers in the last paragraph to normal
 * The second "has" and "award" in the first sentence of the last paragraph are both redundant
 * Link Norman Lear Center
 * Link either Creative Arts Emmy or Primetime Emmy Awards


 * References, External links, other
 * Spell out "WJZ" in reference 4; most readers don't know what it is
 * Really getting picky, but per MoS:TM, remove the copyright symbol from reference 8
 * Add Category:2007 television episodes
 * If a link to the article that inspired the episode is available, I would add it under External links

Don't be discouraged by the amount of issues here, I was extremely picky. Anyway, it makes life easier at GAN. If you have any question, put them here (I'll check back eventually) or my talk page. Cheers, Mm40 (talk) 13:45, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I made the changes that you suggested to the best of my ability. This episode, unlike several like I had done so far, does not have a commentary on the DVDs, although I wish the episode did. Therefore, I cannot include as many production details as I can. Also, WJZ is a television station in Baltimore; that is why I can't spell it out. I did expand the lead some; what do you think of the expansion?

Other than that, I have been able to make the rest of the changes, and I am trying to find more critics' comments about the episode.

I hope that this helps you. Again, thanks for the suggestions. SciGal (talk) 19:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I found additional information about Segev and Gentry's algorithm, and I have included it in the "Origin" sectionSciGal (talk) 14:52, 8 December 2009 (UTC)