Wikipedia:Peer review/Hip hop/archive1

Hip hop
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Hip Hop is a former Good Article (arts/social science). the article as-is has survived as an introductory article for a multitude of aspects within Hip Hop. A LOT of cleanup has been done, but I would like to work with others to elevate the article back to GA status, and I would appreciate any review of and constructive comments about the entire article.

Thanks,   Ro   Bo   Tam   ice 20:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: Interesting article and topic, fairly well written, but needs some work and expansion to get back to GA status. Here are some suggestions for improvement: Hope this helps, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:06, 16 April 2008 (UTC) PS I just read Hip hop culture and will review it next - it does a better job at being comprehensive and using images, and worse on citations. My main concern is that having read both articles, I am still not clear on how Hip hop differs from Hip hop culture - why should these be two separate articles (and not merged)? I am not saying they should, only that the articles need to make a better case for their notability as a topic and uniqueness. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Read the Good Article criteria - in its current state this does not seem to meet the comprehensive or well referenced requirements.
 * Comprehensiveness is the major problem I see - for example, the history ends with the 1980s. it refers to the History of hip hop music article, but does not summarize it per WP:Summary style.
 * Also is this about the whole hip hop culture or just the music? The lead refers to tagging / graffiti and break dancing, but there is very little about these here. This is covered under WP:LEAD - the lead should summarize the whole article and everything in the lead should also be in the article.
 * Several whole paragraphs have no references - for example, cite claims like Rapping is derived from the griots (folk poets) of West Africa, and Caribbean-style toasting.
 * The refs that are there need to be more detailed and consistent - internet refs should have url, title, publisher, author if known, and date accessed. Using cite web and the other cite templates may be useful.
 * The article seems overlinked - for example Sugar Hill Gang's "Rapper's Delight" is linked twice in two sections and Planet Rock is linked twice in one paragraph. Most people want no more than two links per article - one in the lead and one in the body.
 * Be consistent - is it "Planet Rock" or just Planet Rock? the Bronx or The Bronx (another overlinked term)?
 * It seems like there could be more images in the article