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History of role-playing games
Hoping to get this article up to GA or even FA quality - any suggestions? Percy Snoodle 12:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, AZ t 01:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Seems very US centric. Doesn't mention Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, one of the most popular rpgs in Europe. Doesn't mention the world Europe, even. And of course nothing about rpg in Japan, or well, anywhere outside US - which of course is treated as 'the world'. More inline citations are needed, and it doesn't seem to use any academic publications (all but one references are websites): I would strongly recommend reading such books like Shared Fantasy: Role Playing Games As Social Worlds by Gary Alan Fine, for example. The existing references are not formated properly: some are actually online reprints of journal articles and should be formatted acordingly. Last but not least, perhaps Tékumel, which formed an important part of Fine's research, should be mentioned.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus talk 16:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I've added Tekumel and WFRP; thanks for that. Wikipedia has very few articles on Japanese RPGs - I could only find Alshard, Night Wizard! and Double Cross (role-playing game).  None are more recent than 2001.  It's hard to find info on japanese RPGs online; any search is swamped with CRPGs.  Could you recommend a source for them? Percy Snoodle 12:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've found some info on trpg.net and added that. Percy Snoodle 12:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding a stub on Sword World; but the fact that article on "the most popular Japanese role-playing game" contains just one line just goes to show how much work we have to do to globalize the current rpg articles. Perhaps people at Japan-related topics notice board could help with that article?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus talk 16:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * This was done, and I'd like to praise Plumcherry's work on that article since. Percy Snoodle 18:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * While I am not very familiar with Japanese rpgs, I think Record of Lodoss War was based on one, and perhaps members of WikiProject Anime and manga can help to identify some others. On that note, shouldn't the article describe historu of CRPGs too, as an important child of rpgs? PS. I would be happy to add a section on RPG in Poland, but I am not familar with RPGs in Europe to write a more general section on that - and even in history of Polish RPG I am not an expert.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus talk 16:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've added a short note on CRPGs. I wonder whether, since we have Category:Polish role-playing games, it would be worth creating an article on Polish role-playing games or perhaps Role-playing games in Poland to go in Category:Polish culture? I'll post notices on the articles you recommend asking for expansion of Sword World and the other Japanese RPGs. Percy Snoodle 09:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It would, I just don't know when I get around to it. I wrote Polish comics and Science fiction and fantasy in Poland, so I have some ideas how to get started on that, too :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 20:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Great work on the new article! I've put in a note in the 90's linking to it. Percy Snoodle 18:03, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I thought that in the midsts of my remarks about US-centricism and need to globalize the article I should add a disclaimer that without a doubt US was a pioneer and (still is?) the most important market, and US games are much more often translated into other languages then the other way around, so the US section should likely be the largest. But currently US related topics cover over 90% of the article, and this is likely too much.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus talk 16:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It is a concern. I'm writing this from the UK, so though I may have an English-language bias I doubt I'm US-centric. Most of the history of RPGs is likely concern the market leaders and innovators; the former are definitely the Americans; the latter, I'm not so sure. Percy Snoodle 09:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)