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Joey Jordison
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 * A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style; it can be found on the automated peer review page for July 2009.

This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I would like to get this article up to GA status as of now. This article has perviously had one unsuccessful GAN, and is currently listed as a B-class article; I need some feedback from other users. Also I need some assistance to get this article to meet the GA standards. Any input and improvements to the article would be happily appreciated.

Thanks, &mdash;Terrence and Phillip 16:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Finetooth comments: This is interesting. It's broad in coverage, neutral, and stable. I have a few concerns about prose and Manual of Style issues. Some of the special terms could be made more clear to general readers through wikilinks or brief in-text explanations.


 * I wonder if the article might include a critical reception section with reviews of Jordison's work by music reviewers working for magazines or newspapers. I don't know if any exist, but it would make the article more broad to include them if they do.

Early life
 * "The band helped Jordison break new ground, playing for live crowds in support of local bands including Atomic Opera... " - Wikilink Atomic Opera?
 * Done.
 * "In early 1995, Modifidious disbanded due to a lack of interest, owed to the shift in interest from thrash metal to death metal in America." - Suggestion for tightening: "In early 1995, Modifidious disbanded because of a shift in interest from thrash metal to death metal in America."
 * Done.

Slipknot
 * "A lot of Slipknot's early development was discussed by band members while Jordison worked night shifts at Sinclair's garage." - This is unclear because it might be interpreted to mean that the other band members discussed important business while Jordison was at work. I think it means that he was important in those early discussions, but I'm not sure. Also, material in the lead should also appear in the main text sections, and it's important to include in this section the information about The Pale Ones' connection to Slipknot. Otherwise, a reader of this section who zipped through the lead won't understand why the first sentence is about The Pale Ones and the third sentence about Slipknot.
 * According to Slipknot (band), the band The Pale Ones were the original band to Slipknot, which Joey joined shortly after the band was created. Later Joey was the one who suggested to change the band's name to "Slipknot" after one of their songs from the demo Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat. Hope this is what you meant to ask. Also can you help with writing this?

Murderdolls
 * "Jordison became the Murderdoll's guitarist and he contacted... " - "persuaded" rather than "contacted"? Or "recruited"?
 * Done.
 * "Wednesday would eventually move to vocalist... " - "eventually moved to" rather than "would eventually move to"?
 * Done.

Other musical endeavours
 * "after guitarists Steinar Gundersen and Arnt Gronbech—who were also only touring members—were charged after sexually assaulting a fan in Toronto... " - "charged with" rather than "charged after"?
 * Done.
 * "While touring with Korn, Jordison set a record for the most appearances at the Download Festival in England, as the only performer ever to have performed five times." - Suggestion: "While touring with Korn, Jordison set a record by becoming the first musician ever to perform on five different occasions at the Download Festival in England."
 * Done.

Equipment
 * "During an interview with Drummer in 2008, Jordison offered a run down of his touring rig." - "Run-down" and "rig" might be a bit too slangy. Suggestion: "During an interview with Drummer in 2008, Jordison described his standard touring equipment."
 * Done.
 * "Pearl Reference Series & Paiste Cymbals:" - The ampersand is not normally used unless part of a company name or other official name.
 * Done. I removed the ampersand and replaced it with "and".
 * Many of the terms in this list are mysterious to me and, I assume, lots of other readers. Wikilink snare and octoban and other special terms? Explain others? What is a "tom"? What is a "signature heavy hi-hat"? And so on.
 * Got some of them. However I couldn't find anything about a tom from the disambiguation page. The closest one I could find was Tom (instrument), although I very doubt this is the one I'm looking for. Also I wikilinked hi-hat, although a "signature heavy hi-hat" is probably just the brand name of the drum he uses.

References
 * Page ranges take en dashes rather than hyphens, and multiple pages are abbreviated as pp. rather than p.; e.g., p. 22-25 in citation 1 should be pp. 22–25.
 * Done.
 * Citation 30 looks incomplete, and here the p. would be correct rather than the pp.
 * Fixed part of the problem, although I don't know how to fix citation 30. Whoever got it did a bad job at citing sources.

Images
 * The infobox image is interesting and illuminating, and its license looks OK to me.
 * Ok.
 * I'm less certain about the fair-use rationale for the second image. It might be questioned on grounds that the image does not add anything not covered by the first image plus the text.
 * If anyone objects to using the second image, I'll probably just remove it altogether since there doesn't seem to be different free version for the image.

I hope these suggestions prove helpful. If so, please consider reviewing another article, especially one from the PR backlog. That is where I found this one. Finetooth (talk) 22:27, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I have replied to most of your issues concerning about the article. You should take a look to see if everything is alright. &mdash;Terrence and Phillip 00:40, 17 July 2009 (UTC)