Wikipedia:Peer review/Karmichael Hunt/archive1

Karmichael Hunt
I'd like a bit of feedback on this article. SpecialWindler 11:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Karanacs
Some of the sentences were confusing to me, but that may be because I don't know anything about rugby and am unfamiliar with the terms used. I have a few overall suggestions for you.
 * The lead is pretty short. You might try to expand it by at least a few more sentences.
 * After the first reference to him in the first main paragraph, please refer to him by his surname "Hunt." This is considered more formal and more appropriate in an encyclopedia.
 * ✅ In the early career, Karmichael is stated but only because his parents are there, which may make it confusing SpecialWindler 06:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I recommend changing the structure a bit. Rather than separate the article into sections by who he played for, I would reorganize it by year, especially since there is overlap in the years he played.
 * ✅SpecialWindler 06:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I like your tables under Career Highlights/Honors, but I would make this section contain just the tables, and move the honors into the text.
 * ✅SpecialWindler 06:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you need more detail in some areas:
 * "After some good trial games" (what did he do that was so good?)
 * "this left some large shoes to fill" (what was he expected to do now?)
 * In the 2005 section, can you cite specific examples of where he showed good and bad form or provide more details about his performance in comparison to the previous year so that we understand how much of a slump it was?
 * "Critics were calling him the next super-star of the game" (Can you include some actual quotes from critics)
 * Overall, you do a decent job with sources, but to be a GA class, you will need to be more specific in your citation method (include the names of the authors and the publisher of the source). There is also room for improvement in the Internationals for the Kangaroos section.
 * "There was much debate concerning who should be fullback, Karmichael, team mate, Justin Hodges or rising super-star Greg Inglis"
 * "But in the 50th minute he was knocked unconscious by the shoulder of Kiwi Frank Pritchard whilst making a kick-return. He was taken, concussed, from the field and played no further part in the match, which Australia won convincingly 50-12."
 * The Early Career section also has no citations.
 * The article prose in general needs to be improved. There are many short, slightly repetitive sentences, and there aren't always good transitions between sentences within the same paragraph.

I'd rate this as Start Class for now, but I think you can get it up to B-class if you can improve the prose and elaborate and properly cite more. Good luck! Karanacs 14:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Automated review

 * Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, Ruhrfisch 02:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I copeyed this here because the Peer Reveiw automatic takes a very long time to load and its easier here SpecialWindler 11:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

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The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question. You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Ruhrfisch 02:47, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Please expand the lead to conform with guidelines at Lead. The article should have an appropriate number of paragraphs as is shown on WP:LEAD, and should adequately summarize the article.[?]
 * If this article is about a person, please add  along with the required parameters to the article - see Persondata for more information.[?]
 * Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers), there should be a non-breaking space -  between a number and the unit of measurement. For example, instead of 86 kg, use 86 kg, which when you are editing the page, should look like: 86&amp;nbsp;kg.[?]
 * Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers), please spell out source units of measurements in text; for example, the Moon is 380,000 kilometres (240,000 mi) from Earth.[?] Specifically, an example is 86 kg.
 * Per Wikipedia:Context and Build the web, years with full dates should be linked; for example, link January 15, 2006.[?]
 * As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates), dates shouldn't use th; for example, instead of using January 30th was a great day, use January 30 was a great day.[?]
 * ✅SpecialWindler 06:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of Wikipedia's best work. See also User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.[?]
 * SpecialWindler 06:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Yannismarou
Karanacs' review is excellent. Just to add two things:
 * Expand or merge stubby sections like "2005", "2007" and "Future".
 * ✅ merged SpecialWindler 06:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Your sources are missing data. Publisher? Author? Work? Use properly Template:cite web and Template:cite news.
 * ✅ there are some which dont have authors or publishers but are reliable. SpecialWindler 06:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)