Wikipedia:Peer review/Libertarianism/archive1

Libertarianism
It's an important subject, but the style needs work, the facts need checking, and sources need to be added. It just emerged from a nasty edit war, and it needs your help. I'd like to get this to featured article status ASAP. Thanks, Dave 15:15, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Alas, having to drill down through three paragraphs of what appear to be disclaimer messages at the start did put me off a tad. Could the italicized text be kept to a minimum? Are there any notable individuals who have been elected to office within the US under the Libertarian ticket? I didn't see any listed. "perceived" was spelled incorrectly. Otherwise it looks fairly solid; although I'm somewhat unfamiliar with this political philosophy. &mdash; RJH 00:51, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree, but we have some people (most of whom are named Kev) who insist that "libertarianism" is actually a kind of socialism.... even though there isn't a single site on the top 100 hits in google that uses "libertarianism" consistently to mean socialism without qualifying it.... When I say that the people who use the word to mean "socialism" are few in number, he calls it "more needless attempts to minimize meaning that some people don't like," so we have to walk on eggshells around him.... it sucks. Dave 01:49, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * I guess I don't really care all that much about the political nuances. By convention that type of disambiguation is normally handled on a separate page, or after the meat of the article. The current format is too distracting; it's like watching a medical advert on TV... such and such a drug may cause x, y, z, a, b, c, d, e, f, ... side effects, &c. But no matter. :) My suggestion would be just to use a "controversial" template at the top of the article, or something comparable. &mdash; RJH 02:43, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Is this better? Libertarianism Dave 03:18, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Disclaimer is now two lines instead of three paragraphs. Done.

This article is getting there. Does anyone have any advice?Dave 04:19, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

*The disambiguation grafs at the beginning are indeed off-putting. But short of moving this to a new title, something like Libertarianism (American political philosophy) and making Libertarianism a redirect page, they're a necessary evil. I'm going to print this out and make a closer study, but from what I've seen I applaud the contributors to this article. It appears from my cursory examination to be thorough and complete. It includes both supporters' and critics' views, bristles with links to additional articles, and even has pictures. Good work. One serious omission, one which will be raised should it go to WP:FAC, is the absence of a bibliography. Yes, you do cite on-line material, but it really does need citations to printed sources as well. But on the substance: bravo. PedanticallySpeaking 20:35, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)

Yay. Thanks for the good advice. I'll start on the bibliography when I have time. Anyone else have any ideas?Dave 21:55, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)

I've added a bibliography, shortened the article, spun off sections, shortened the disambiguation at the beginning... Any more advice? Please? Dave (talk)


 * For the record, I didn't strike out any part of my comment above. PedanticallySpeaking 17:50, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, should I not have done that? I can undo it if you feel that there's anything left unaddressed.  Sorry if I caused a problem Dave (talk) 19:06, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)