Wikipedia:Peer review/List of Alpha Phi Omega members/archive1

List of Alpha Phi Omega members
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I am attempting to eventually get it to a Featured List with the example of the List of Alpha Phi Alpha brothers and List of Phi Kappa Psi brothers. Thanks, Naraht (talk) 13:57, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Comments
 * Not a fan of the non-standard TOC, the list isn't big enough to merit reformatting it IMO.
 * Dynamic list template should go under the lead IMO.
 * Intro isn't long enough, also get rid of the excessive bolding.
 * I'm sure there's at least one relevant external link that can be added.
 * The table widths vary from section to section and should be fixed.
 * The names should be sortable at least.
 * Remove the line from above the Academia header.
 * Recent featured lists no longer start with this list of.. check out recent lists such as List of University of Central Florida alumni, List of Washington & Jefferson College alumni, and the one you mentioned to see how they handle the issue.
 * You have a lot of issues with capitalization. (eg. mayor and Member in Ilus W. Davis)
 * I'm pretty sure the pin is copyrighted to Alpha Phi Omega and should not be used as an icon in the list. (See WP:LOGO)
 * Is there any reason to differentiate between regular members and those from the Philippines with the flag? You already mention it in the chapter column. (See WP:MOSFLAG)
 * I'm seeing a lot of question marks, if the information isn't known or cannot be clarified it would probably be best to just remove it.
 * Numbers one through nine are written out and anything above that is in numerical form.
 * Check disambig and external links using the toolbox on the right.

You should consider taking off the red/black links, otherwise you are going to have to argue for inclusion if taken through FLC. I'll go through the list again once you've addressed these issues. --ImGz ( t/c ) 19:54, 7 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Non-standard TOC has been removed.
 * Dynamic Link template has been moved.
 * I'll look at extending the intro. Some mention of why there are so many scouts and university presidents.
 * An external link can be made to the current list of the Alpha Phi Omega website (which is much shorter)
 * Please add it.


 * Given the template, the easiest way to make the width's consistent would be to have an image on each of the subtables.
 * Looking through the sections, all should have at least one image available for use.


 * If the names are the only sortable field, is it worthwhile to have a sort (only other thing that seems to make sense is the chapter, and adding a sort on that is ugly
 * Looking through the FL log for the past few months pretty much every list that involves people is sortable. You can leave it as is for now but it will probably come up again later at FLC if you take it through.


 * Line has been removed from before Academia.
 * I'll take a look at the two school lists, but it seems that the fraternal lists might be better models.
 * The other two fraternal lists were promoted more than two years ago and some standards have tightened since then.


 * I'll take a look at capitalization, but that will probably be the ugliest to finish.
 * The pin with the H is not a symbol of the fraternity, it was created for Wikipedia. The only similar pins that are copyrighted are with the S in the middle for the brothers and P for the pledges (with appropriate color issues)
 * The pin itself is still copyrighted, what you're using is a derivative work. Copyright FAQ you might want to ask about this at Media copyright questions but I don't think it can be used in the article freely.


 * It isn't regular members vs those with the flag. Those without a flag are brothers of Alpha Phi Omega of the USA, those with the flag Alpha Phi Omega of the Philippines. Using the flag seems cleaner than the info in the chapter box. However I'll see whether that can be done in any way within WP:MOSFLAG
 * Keep in mind it's not only about the use of flags it's about accessibility. Besides that IMO I don't believe that distinction between USA/Philippines membership should be made within the name parameter, I would suggest getting more input on this.


 * For the question marks, they are primarily where the person is known to be an alumnus (and even which national organization), but chapter is not known. Should that be changed to blanks?
 * I was talking about entries such as "Keyboardist for Freestyle and Sinosikat?", "Provincial Board Member, Palawan (2007(?)— )", "Brigadier General, United States Army. Deputy Director of Selective Service (1950-?)" etc. Also for entries like (2007— ) don't leave the end date blank, use "present".


 * I'll take a look for the numbers.
 * No disambigs according to the toolbox, but the external link checker... Wow!
 * Also, what are red/black links?
 * Wilford S. Bailey (black)
 * David Beckley (red)
 * You're going to want to go through and double check all the black links, Bailey for example does have an article

Naraht (talk) 16:46, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Which was created last week. :)Naraht (talk) 15:00, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Another big issue is with using sources such as "Personal communication with Leo Baltazar." See WP:NOR. --ImGz ( t/c ) 17:36, 10 May 2010 (UTC)