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List of Russian inventors
This peer review discussion has been closed. Well, review this article pls, is it ready for FL?

Thanks, ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 11:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Review

 * The is no need for the flag pictures in the lead.
 * ✅ Grey Hood   Talk  22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Peter the Great and Peter of Russia are the same people, they should be noted as the same name.
 * Sergey Korolyov is noted as Sergey Korolev.
 * yes, its the same name-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 21:12, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The lead should definitely be expanded to meet WP:LEAD. I'm aware it's pretty hard to make a large lead for these type of pages but there are others that make good leads for lists. I think you should include history and what the most notable inventions went on to do. Example:
 * In 1997, Russian inventor Sergey Brin and American industrialist Larry Page created the Google Search engine. In 2009, Google was the most used search engine, topping Yahoo! by about 60% of users every month.


 * Users at FL are VERY picky on prose (paragraphs and stuff). The lead definitely needs to be in prose format.
 * Many pictures need alt text. I don't believe the any of the faces of inventors need alt text a few pictures may need it.
 * The Inventions column has a lot of words that need to be capitalized. The beginnings of each square should be capitalized (ie: camming devices, tricolor principle of the color television etc.)
 * Person doesn't seem to be the best column name. Perhaps Information.
 * I VERY STRONGLY suggest that you copy the edit box at the bottom of this page and paste it over this page.
 * According to this and this, you are the fourth most contributer to the page. I once got a FAC withdrawn because of this. You should at least be third.
 * There are 12 dabs (links that lead to disambiguation pages), see here for help
 * ✅-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 21:07, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Honestly I see no need for the picture gallery in the beginning at all.
 * me too-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 21:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Grey Hood   Talk  22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * There are tons of external links that need to be fixed. see here for help.
 * The lead really should be cleaned up. Sentences 2,3, and 4 are not needed. See my fourth comment for more info.
 * I know that sentences 3 and 4 are not quite along the line of WP:LEAD, but they contain valuable links to the similar information on Russian inventors presented in different way. Why not write a good large lead and preserve these two small links in it? Regarding sentence 2, it's rather important since it defines some of the criteria for inclusion into this list. Without it there is a pretty good chance that some on-wiki nationalists will start remove Russian immigrants/emigrants, non-ethnic Russians etc. Such activities on the List of Russian people were not infrequent. Grey Hood   Talk  22:18, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The list seems to be incomplete. The talk page gives a list of people that need to be included. I recommend you search the names on google books or google scholar for actual RS.
 * With all the names on the talk page the expansion of this list would require a huge amount of work. Establishing the priority and notability of many inventions, finding illustrations, writing articles on some inventors and inventions etc. I'd propose to concentrate on improving the list as it stands in order to make it good enough for FLC. Expansion would be nice too, of course, but I think it is impossible in principle to make this list complete. Grey Hood   Talk  22:29, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

All In all I feel that the list and lead need expansion to pass FLC. I strongly suggest that you respond to my comments soon, as I will check back Friday. I also suggest you check out some similar lists that have passed FLC. Good luck improving the article. Please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Crowz RSA  01:44, 29 September 2010 (UTC)