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List of Slipknot concert tours
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I think there have been a lot of changes since it being a FLC, and I think it is FL now.
 * Previous peer review

Thanks, Crowz  RSA  23:45, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: While it is clear that a lot of work has gone into this, more work is needed before I think it would pass at FLC. Here are some suggestions for improvement. Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:05, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I do not think the first sentence meets WP:LEAD[[, particularly [[Wikipedia:LEAD: First sentence: The article should begin with a declarative sentence, answering two questions for the nonspecialist reader: "What (or who) is the subject?" and "Why is this subject notable?"[1] The article is about the band's tours, but the first sentence does not mention tours in its current form.
 * References usually go after punctuation, per WP:CITE
 * The prose could be tightened - just in the lead these two sentences could be combined The band's first concert tour was in 1999, when they toured the United States with an annual festival featuring live performances by various heavy metal bands. The festival was called Ozzfest, which was founded by Ozzy Osbourne[1] and his wife Sharon Osbourne in 1996.[2] to read something like ''The band's first concert tour was of the United States with the 1999 Ozzfest, founded by Ozzy Osbourne[1] and his wife Sharon Osbourne in 1996 and featuring live performances by heavy metal bands.[2]
 * Would "supporting legs" be clearer here? The Kill the Industy tour and Slipknot's second Ozzfest were both supporting tours [legs?] of the world tour.[5]
 * The lead should be an accessible and inviting overview of the whole article. As a summary, nothing important should be in the lead only - since it is a summary, it should all be repeated in the body of the article itself. I can see things like Ozzy founding Ozzfest being only in the lead, because it is not really about the band and this is a list article. But if performing the song "Purity" is important enough about the band and its tours to be in the lead, I think it should be mentioned in the article body too.
 * Ditto with "Skin ticket"
 * Awkward The tour lasted 28 months, was performed in 34 different countries, and had 233 shows.[6] how about something like this instead The tour lasted 28 months, with 233 shows in 34 different countries.[6]
 * I think I would rather see more about some of the tours that are not mentioned in the lead at all, than band members' broken ankles.
 * Why no number of performances for the World Domination Tour?
 * I think these sentences could be combined into one  The tour, with part of it taking place during the summer, posed a challenge to Slipknot in particular.[39] Slipknot performed in masks that, even under the best circumstances, were extremely uncomfortable.[40]
 * "European leg" is singular, "they" is plural The European leg was intended to begin around the September 11 attacks, but because of the incident, they were postponed to February 2002.[52]
 * This After a Canadian, Australian, and New Zealand leg at the "Big Day Out" festival,[75] Slipknot returned to the United States, supported by Lamb Of God and Shadows Fall.[76] could be something like After Canadian and Australian legs, and a New Zealand leg that included the "Big Day Out" festival,[75] Slipknot returned to the United States, supported by Lamb Of God and Shadows Fall.[76]
 * Refs need to give more complete information in some cases. For example current ref 42 is just "Mtv Retrieved 2010-03-03" but looking at the ref itself, there is a date, article title, and author: Jun 22 2000, Coal Chamber Drummer Sidelined, Still Plans "Tattoo" Tour, By Robert Mancini Internet refs need URL, title, author if known, publisher and date accessed. cite web and other cite templates may be helpful.
 * I would get someone to look it over for a copyedit.
 * WP:ALT says to describe the picture, but not to assume the average reader will recognize what Slipknot fans (in this case) do. I would describe the lead image as more like "A rock band silhouetted on a dark stage with white fog on the stage floor"
 * Thanks for your review, the list's flaws have been fixed. Crowz  RSA  23:57, 9 April 2010 (UTC)