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List of pistols
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I reckon it has the chance of becoming a featured list. My main concerns are:
 * 1) that the table needs to be one long one and not one for every letter
 * 2) The intro is too long
 * 3) There aren't enough references
 * and too many red links

I will accept any comments/ suggestions for improvement so that this article can become a featured list

Thanks, Ajpralston1 (talk) 19:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, in a peer review we suggest things to be done to improve the list, which the User does. Could u do 1-3 of your suggestion?--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 07:37, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Good point! Maybe the wording on my part didn't help but all i wanted was an opinion on whether the table needed to be one long one or not etc and whether i could nominate it for featured list yet, i wasn't asking or expecting people to do it for me, just for tips and hints on how to make it ready for nomination. Whether my concerns above will hinder it when its reviewed or not?! Ajpralston1 (talk) 18:58, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah I didn't understand what you meant but now I do. I'm mainly a Featured list reviewer and just came looking for more reviews over here because most FLCs are now reviewed. So I can help you in indicating what is missing for FL statusl. First off the intro isn't too long. It just need to be in sections instead of third level sections with maybe types as the header. The A-Z sections should be removed and the list should be one lang list so it can be sorted according to whatever the reader wants for example according to type or country or even manufacturer. The Table of contents should be a normal one, no need for this contents thing. You need to give the general reference of the information and the specific inline citations for info that isn't in the general info. With a bit of dedication and hard work you can get this list near feature quality within a week or less. Then you can nominate it as a Featured list candidate. I'll give you suggestions along the way. Each time you finish something just type done which I'll see in the watchlist and will give more comments. Start with the tables and references and we'll proceed from there.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 19:09, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Have completed all points mentioned. I await further suggestions and comments. Whats your opinion on adding a medium sized picture gallery at the bottom? Any good? Ajpralston1 (talk) 15:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * 1) Is this list complete? Does it have every pistol ever created in the world?--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 15:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) WPFirearms isn't a reliable source and World Guns is a dead link. Provide better references please.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 15:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) There are four types of pistols. I suggest dividing the list into four sections to have a distinction between each type.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 15:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * No its not all the pistols ever created. Will that hinder it? Have split types of pistols into sections, when you say have a distinction between each type, do you just mean to compare them? Removed WPFirearms reference although i don't know why world.guns isn't working as it was yesterday. Will continue looking for more references. Ajpralston1 (talk) 16:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * One of the criteria of FL is that they be comprehensive so this would hinder it...And I don't understand which pistols are what type. There should be a column in the list for the type of the pistol or the list should be split into the different types. --Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 18:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Have added type column. Working on references. Whats next!! Ajpralston1 (talk) 20:39, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Why aren't there any Multi barelled (MB) pistols? And only one Single Shot pistol exists? The list isn't comprehensive and needs a lot of expansion.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 22:17, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * 1) Remove World Guns and Gallery of Guns from general references. These aren't reliable sources. --Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 22:17, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Why are there references at the bottom of the list? you listed those already in General references... --Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 22:17, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Beretta M 1934, FN model 1910 and more on List_of_World_War_II_firearms aren't listed in this list. Make sure all are. --Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 22:17, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Add all pistols from Category:Beretta pistols, Category:Semi-automatic pistols and its subcategories and Category:Pistols and its subcategories to the list. You need a solid reference where those pistols are defined. You could also just reference every single pistol you list there for the accuracy of the information... --Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 22:17, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Quick question, is the way that I'm referencing the guns OK as I don' want to do that for all the guns only to be told that its wrong. Thanks Ajpralston1 (talk) 20:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is wrong. You aren't allowed to reference to Wikipedia articles. You could however use those articles to get references like from Minebea_PM-9 you can get the japanese reference where it states the year of the gun and the data... You need Reliable Sources. You should also you cite web for your references, with all possible parameters filled.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 20:30, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing that up for me! Ajpralston1 (talk) 20:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * How's it looking? Source column any good? Ajpralston1 (talk) 12:52, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Much better and please remove the wikipedia references. (TABOO)--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 17:07, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Just need to add references but the pistols are all added! Obviously if I find any new ones I will add them as go along. Ajpralston1 (talk) 18:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you think it is ready for featured list nomination? Ajpralston1 (talk) 17:49, 21 October 2009 (UTC)