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M. G. Ramachandran filmography
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M. G. Ramachandran (or more commonly known as MGR) was and still is considered as one of the most successful stars of Tamil cinema and his works have had a great influence in modern Tamil culture and lingo. I wish to attempt this for FLC. Any constructive comments to improve the list are most welcome. Thanks, —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 10:05, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Comments from Kailash
 * Roles that do not have Wiki articles need not be mentioned by name in the lead unless necessary. Examples include Rangaiah Naidu (Sathi Leelavathi) and Mohan (Rajakumari).
 * Ramachandran's first lead role as Mohan, a villager who marries a princess, was in A. S. A. Sami's swashbuckler film, Rajakumari (1947) can be something like Ramachandran's first lead role was in A. S. A. Sami's swashbuckler film, Rajakumari (1947) where he played a villager who marries a princess.
 * In addition to films with socially oriented themes, Ramachandran received positive feedback and commercial success for his fantasy swashbuckler films such as Alibabavum 40 Thirudargalum (1956), the first Tamil and South Indian full-length colour film, Madurai Veeran (1956),[18] Chakravarthi Thirumagal (1957),[19] and Mahadhevi (1957). - I doubt if "socially oriented themes" should link to political cinema. When Indians say "social film", I'm not sure if they mean "social problem film", "social guidance film" or "social realism". Also, common genres like fantasy and action-adventure may be de-linked. You can just say that Alibaba was the first South Indian full-length colour film, mentioning Tamil cinema is redundant.
 * In Periya Idathu Penn (1963), where he played a farmer who decides to get even with his village's zamindar by marrying his daughter. - "Where" is redundant.
 * The following year, he appeared as a bus conductor in Thozhilali who exposes the fraudulent methods of a rival bus company - I would say, he appeared in Thozhilali as a bus conductor who exposes the fraudulent methods of a rival bus company.
 * and as a fisherman who resolves to end the dispute between two fishing communities in Padagotti. - "and in Padagotti as a fisherman".
 * In 1965, he collaborated with Tapi Chanakya and B. R. Panthulu in Enga Veettu Pillai, where he featured as twins of stark opposite natures, one a coward and the other courageous, and in Aayirathil Oruvan as a doctor who joins, and later becomes the leader of, a rebellion against a dictator respectively - this sentence is too long, please split.
 * Anbe Vaa (1966), where Ramachandran played an industrialist and was his only film under AVM Productions, is considered an antithesis of the roles he was doing during this period and was also commercially successful. - mention in what case this film was seen as an antithesis (wikilink this), perhaps the fact that it was a rom-com.
 * Ramachandran's portrayal of twins, a club dancer and a thief, who get separated at birth in Kudiyirundha Koyil (1968) garnered him the Tamil Nadu State Film Award for Best Actor. I've seen the film; they were separated as children, not at birth. And I would regard the corrupted twin as a criminal more than a thief. -- Kailash29792 (talk)  11:50, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * All of your above comments have been resolved. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 15:43, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Then you get what you seek: my support. Kailash29792 (talk)  15:58, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Ahem, this is a PR and not an FLC, bro. Thanks anyway. Your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 16:01, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Comments by Vedant
 * Maybe a little bit on how his first role turned out?
 * Added. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * "notably" might not be the best choice as there's really nothing the reader can make it out it. Unless you really want to differentiate the roles from the rest simply saying "films including A, B, C" works fine IMO.
 * "Unless you really want to differentiate the roles from the rest simply saying "films including A, B, C" works fine IMO" — That's the general idea. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Not a fan of the Rajakumari entry in the second paragraph. A lot of things read awkwardly: 1. "Rajakumari, based on the Arabian Nights, was" would read better as "Based on the tales of the Arabian Nights, Rajakumari" 2. I also believe that the mention of the breakthrough role should come first. 3. I think all the important details about the role/film can be clubbed into one sentence and the details of MGR' and the film's success in another.
 * Done. As asked. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * "He established himself as an action hero along the lines of" - can you think of a better phrasing "along the lines of" reads awkwardly.
 * How about "akin to"? I have added that. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Also, the "gained" a persona bit isn't really appropriate either.
 * Changed to "earned". —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Maybe incorporate the year 1953 into the sentence to mark his Malayalam debut.
 * Done. As asked. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * "Ramachandran continued to perform in roles which enabled" - perform in roles? played roles would be more appropriate.
 * Done. As asked. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The whole sentence is feels a little contrived, just a acting credit to substantiate the claim, to add to that i am not sure if the directorial entry even belongs here in this capacity.
 * Tweaked the sentence. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * " the highest grossing films of the years they were released" - of their respective release years.?
 * Done. As asked. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Going through the rest. Numerounovedant  Talk  18:03, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The first sentence of the third paragraph is too long and poorly constructed.
 * I have split the sentence. Please do suggest any other alternatives if needed. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * "He also enriched the concept of showering love and affection for his family members during this period." - How is that relevant?
 * I think I didn't construct the sentence properly. Tweaked it now. It's actually a recurring motif that takes place in most of his films in the 60s. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * "These films played a crucial part" - I am really lost here, what films? There hasn't been a mention of any films in the entire paragraph up until now.
 * Tweaked the sentence hopefully. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Well, from here on I'd rather make the changes myself if you allow. Putting them here is double the work. Numerounovedant  Talk  18:31, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * "with his village's zamindar by marrying his daughter." - the implication is less obvious that one would think.
 * Some pretty good points you have put up here, Vedant. Hopefully, I have resolved some of them. Feel free to make any copyedits you like, my friend. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:41, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I made some minor changes to the prose, I hope they look satisfactory to you. Amazing work with the list, I can only imagine how difficult finding the sources must have been. Good luck. Numerounovedant   Talk  17:13, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Vedant. Your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 06:38, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you both for the reviews. I will now close this PR and move on to FAC soon. —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 11:55, 6 August 2017 (UTC)