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MTR
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I need feedback on what could be considered as remotely wrong with this article; also because the quality has to be kept up due to its FA status.
 * Previous peer review

Thanks, Jc86035 (talk • contributions) 10:13, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jc86035. I'm just off for a wikibreak, but here's my two cents:


 * lead
 * See WP:PERCENT


 * Initial proposal
 * Are refs 6 & 10 large enough to need page numbers?
 * Two paras don't end in an inline reference

Modified Initial System
 * I see only two references, again paras don't end in an inline reference


 * Line extensions
 * Under referenced (only to ref 12)


 * Airport connection
 * references
 * the in-town check-ins offers a more convenient and time-saving routine; a free shuttle bus service transports travellers from these stations to their respective hotels as well.? I'm not sure about the phrasing of this.
 * Again WP:PERCENT


 * Tseung Kwan O Line
 * The tried-and-true cross-platform interchange arrangement is repeated here. Opinion? Ref?


 * West Rail Line
 * Refs?


 * Interchange stations
 * Only one reference. Note 1 also needs a reference


 * Ma On Shan Line
 * Unreferenced section


 * Disneyland extension
 * The3.5–kilometre needs a convert template; this will sort out the unneeded ndash
 *  the carriages were changed from the existing M-Train rolling stock to match the recreational and adventurous nature of the 3.5-minute journey ? please expand on the recreational and adventurous nature


 * Lok Ma Chau Spur Line
 * Empty section


 * Privatisation and merger
 * refs for the first two and last two paragraphs


 * Tseung Kwan O Spur Line
 * Empty section


 * Infrastructure/Network
 * Why do we have track gauges of 1435 and 1432 mm? Apparently the track gauge for the MTR network differs from that of the ex-KCR network by 3mm. Jc86035 (talk • contributions) 03:53, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The details in the information template of the map are out of date (date says 2009/image says 2014) This image has been updated by me and User:Sameboat already. Jc86035 (talk • contributions) 03:53, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Control Centres/Depots/MTR bus
 * All unreferenced sections; consider Control centres


 * Station facilities, amenities and services
 * I did a source check on this paragraph; it has one 2009 source (up-to-date?), and I'm not seeing anything the reference with backs up the text to .. disabled friendly; this statement alone is an opinion that needs a 3rd party ref


 * In-station and on-train announcements
 * unreferenced section


 * Public toilet installation concerns
 * This could be condensed


 * In-station commerce and journals
 * unreferenced section


 * Future expansions
 * Other people disagree, but I think this should be called something like Planned expansions, as we have no reliable sources for the future


 * Rolling stock
 * what does p/h/d mean?
 * One of the cars only carry luggages ?
 * There is a name column in the table, but the headings in the sections below are different (e.g. Metro Cammell EMU(DC) and M Stock)
 * Flags in the table (I'll check this)
 * Adtranz-CAF EMU, CNR EMU, SP1900/1950 EMU and Metro Cammell EMU(AC) are unreferenced


 * Fares and tickets
 * Second para on ticket prices needs a reference (and also a date)
 * Final para needs a reference


 * Octopus cards
 * references


 * Tourist pass
 * Unreferenced section

Skipped a few sections here


 * references
 * refs 34, 36, 37, 39, 48, 49 are raw urls and need formatting with titles etc. 48/49 are youtube videos and don't appear reliable sources. Other sources need dates and publishers


 * In summary sourcing is my main concern; on the one spot check the ref didn't mention everything that was being referenced. Edgepedia (talk) 11:24, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I did some work last year adding references to the London Underground article, and I was able to borrow a couple of books from the library for the history. Is there not anything similar for the MTR? 12:20, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * My reading of the section paragraph of MOS:FLAG is that we don't need flags in the table, as they don't actually represent that country, government, or nationality. Made some changes for clarity.Edgepedia (talk) 18:56, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback! Jc86035 (talk • contributions) 03:49, 19 February 2014 (UTC)