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Mothers of the Disappeared
This peer review discussion has been closed. Hello everyone. I've worked on this article for a few months now, and I'm just about ready to nominate it at FAC (my plan is to get it up there late February/early March). I've listed this article for peer review here because, well, it's always nice to have a fresh set of eyes look over the material! I'm not too worried about content or layout; historically it is prose that is my weakest point, so any reviews/suggestions/clarifications on that aspect would be very welcome.

Cheers, Melicans (talk, contributions) 08:50, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Finetooth comments: This looks ready for FAC to me. I made a few small punctuation changes, and here's a very short list of quibbles and suggestions.

Lead
 * "The song was written on a Spanish guitar... " - Would "for Spanish guitar" be more accurate?


 * "The lyrics contain an implicit criticism of the Reagan Administration, which backed the South American regimes who seized power during two coup d'états and caused the disappearances, and provided financial support for the military regime in El Salvador." - Tweak slightly by changing "who" to "that" and fiddling with a couple of other things for clarity? Suggestion: "The lyrics contain an implicit criticism of the Reagan Administration, which backed two South American regimes that seized power during coup d'états and which provided financial support for the military regime in El Salvador."


 * "who variously described it as "powerful",[6] "stunning beauty and sadness",[7] and "a moving tribute" - The second item in this list doesn't quite fit grammatically. Would it be better to say something like "who variously described it as "powerful",[6] "a moving tribute", and a work of "stunning beauty and sadness"[7]?

Writing, recording and inspiration
 * "held in a concentration camp for two years by the fascist Chilean government... " - Link fascist to fascism?


 * "Producer Daniel Lanois was the principal mixer of the song. Bono described Lanois's mix as a performance, recalling that he had used the studio as an instrument to achieve the end result." - This seems a little vague. Would something like "Bono, likening the studio itself to an instrument, described Lanois's mix as a 'performance'."

Composition and theme
 * " 'Mothers of the Disappeared' runs for 5:14." - Would it be helpful to add (5 minutes, 14 seconds) in parentheses here?


 * "At the fifty-second mark the drums play a more regular beat and The Edge's guitar enters playing accompanied by Eno's synthesizer." - Tweak slightly? Suggestion: "At the fifty-second mark the drums play a more regular beat, and The Edge's guitar, accompanied by Eno's synthesizer, enters." Also, link synthesizer?


 * On my computer screen, there's a bit of a text sandwich between the Reagan image on the left and the quote box on the right. This could be easily fixed by moving either of the images up or down five or more lines in relation to the other image.

Live performances
 * There's a smaller (three lines or so) text sandwich in this section. The fix is the same: move the images slightly in relation to one another.


 * "At the conclusion of the song, the band members faced the Madres and applauded, an act in which the rest of the audience joined them." - You might not need the word "them" at the end of the sentence.

Images
 * I always try to make it easy for fact-checkers at FAC to verify the image licenses. It would help them if you could change the link on the description page for File:President Ronald Reagan receives the Tower Commission Report with John Tower and Edmund Muskie.jpg so that it goes to the University of Texas page with the copyright information rather than to image itself (which tells fact-checkers nothing). You might also be able to identify the author, the date of original publication, and get rid of the tag on the license page.

I hope these suggestions prove helpful. If so, please consider commenting on any other article at WP:PR. I don't usually watch the PR archives or make follow-up comments. If my suggestions are unclear, please ping me on my talk page. Finetooth (talk) 19:15, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestions; I've made most of the tweaks that you proposed. Your feedback is much appreciated! Melicans (talk, contributions) 19:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Aknights10 comments: I really appreciated this article because I really love this song! The content is great and so is the layout, however, there are a couple of inconsistencies with regards to the grammar. At various points throughout the article you say things like the people or the children "was disappeared". As opposed to saying "was disappeared" It would be better and grammatically correct to say the children disappeared. Furthermore, there is another mistake in the introduction where you use "further" incorrectly. Also, At another point you say that U2 decided to sing the refrain of the song in Spanish, however when you describe the change in the lyrics you show a transition from the Spanish lyrics to the English lyrics. Good luck with your article! --Aknights10 (talk) 23:27, 10 February 2011 (UTC)