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November Nine

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 * A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style; it can be found on the automated peer review page for July 2009.

This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I am hoping to nominate this for FLC but know my grammar/wording sometimes needs help. Any review would be appreciated.--- Balloonman  NO! I'm Spartacus! 22:33, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Finetooth comments: This is interesting but lacks the kind of background material that would make it truly accessible to readers unfamiliar with poker or these tournaments. I have several suggestions for improvement.

Lead Heads and subheads
 * MOS:INTRO says in part, "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article." The existing lead doesn't mention 2009.
 * Done and added some stuff about the prestige/championship.--- Balloonman  NO! I'm Spartacus! 05:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * When during the year does the tournament take place?
 * Added--- Balloonman  NO! I'm Spartacus! 05:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The Manual of Style advises against repeating the words of the article title in the section heads or subheads. For this reason, I'd suggest shortening "2008 November Nine" to "2008". Ditto for "2009".
 * Done--- Balloonman  NO! I'm Spartacus! 05:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Lead Reception and criticism
 * "decided to delay the final table until shortly before the scheduled broadcast of the final table" - Re-cast to eliminate repetition of "final table"? Explain the meaning of "final table" to readers who might not know?
 * Done--- Balloonman  NO! I'm Spartacus! 05:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "By delaying the final table, however, all nine contestants became instant poker celebritities." - The contestants didn't delay the final table. Suggestion: "Because the final table was delayed, all nine contestants became instant poker celebrities."
 * Re worded to avoid celebrities in back to back sentences as well.--- Balloonman  NO! I'm Spartacus! 05:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "questions started arising as to how the delay would affect the tournament... " - Suggestion: "questions arose about how the delay would affect the tournament... "

Key
 * Should "chip stack" and "cashes" be explained for readers unfamiliar with poker? What are the bracelets for?

2008 Starting chip count
 * Aren't these numbers dollars rather than chips? If so, shouldn't they carry the $ sign? Why would anyone who won have more dollars at the beginning than at the end? It would be helpful to provide more context for readers who don't know the game.
 * "Kelly Kim, the short stack entering the final table, was an established pro who earned cash in numerous events but never won a major tournament." - Explain "short stack"?

2009
 * "The final table's "rags to riches" story is the current chip leader: Darvin Moon, a logger from Maryland." - "Current" means when?
 * "Moon will be competing against seven-time bracelet winner... " - When?

General
 * The dabfinder tool that lives here finds many circular wikilinks or links that go to a disambiguation page instead of the intended target.

I hope these few suggestions prove helpful. Finetooth (talk) 00:16, 30 July 2009 (UTC)