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Poker Face (Lady Gaga song)

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This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I see it as a potential candidate for a GA. I'd really appreciate a great copyediting and some general ideas to improve the article (I can deal with the specifics). Thanks in advance, -- A talk / contribs 17:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments from
 * The first time a country is mentioned its proper name should be written. UK → United Kingdom.
 * Done. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 09:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Remain consistent. Either use USA or U.S.
 * Done. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 09:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The citation in the "Track listings" section seems odd and out of place. Also, maybe catalog numbers could be added to the section?
 * Done. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 10:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Publishing information should be added to citations.
 * Done wherever possible. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 10:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The line "...the rest of the European countries" in the lead seems awkward. Which European countries?
 * Done. Changed to many other European countries. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 10:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * For such a popular song there should be many more critical reviews. Were all the reviews positive? If there are some negative reviews I would add them to the article for balance.
 * Done. Though all the RS had the song as mostly positive. Only negative review I found was at Digital Spy and Sputnikmusic but they were removed as not noteworthy. --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 09:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments by Realist2

I have the article a clean up, but the following references need replacing because there are unreliable sources.


 * http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=27722
 * http://music.unrealitytv.co.uk/lady-gaga-poker-face-single-video-review/
 * http://www.atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67118
 * http://video.aol.com/video-detail/lady-gaga-poker-face-live-jimmy-kimmel/3940120997 (Video doesn't assert notability of event)
 * http://video.aol.com/video-detail/gaga-poker-face-acappella/144560656/?icid=VIDURVMUS04 same issue
 * http://www.deezer.com/en/lady-gaga/poker-face-france-version-part-1-A263969.html
 * http://top40-charts.com/news/Pop-Rock/Lady-GaGa-Releases-New-Single-Poker-Face/46564.html

Also, this is interscope.com, not lady gaga.com as mislabeled in the references section

— R  2  20:14, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Done --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 06:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments: Frcm1988 (talk) 05:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think the countries in the lead should be linked, they are to common geographical places.
 * The composition section dosen't seem to be correct in some parts. The sheet have it in common time not compound
 * The metronome is the instrument that measures the beats. I believe the correct word is tempo.
 * The song is written in the key of A minor, "which is typically used in songs with dark undertones", do you have a source for this.
 * The next part: The song begins with a medium tempo followed by electronic chord arrangement and drums which anticipates the lyrics to follow. The opening chords and the melody emphasize the tonic of the leading notes: Am---F♭---G♭---Am---F♭-G♭. This is followed by the sound of dance music, produced by a powerful beat from the instruments and a stuttering hook following the chorus, seems like a copy of the composition section of the "Papa Don't Preach" article. The sheet music dosen't have this, so this fails under original reaserch.
 * In the sample you wrote "which plays the chorus, where Gaga's voice spans from G3 to C5", how do you know her voice spans that range in the chorus, according to the sheet music that range is for the entire song not only the chorus.
 * Online magazines and reviewers like Allmusic and Popmatters don't go italicised.
 * This sentence: Gaga became the first artist since Madonna's 2006 single "Sorry", I think is odd, it sounds like Sorry is the artist.
 * You have to be consisted with the numbers in the chart performance, for example you have: debuted at number thirty and the song debuted at number 41, choose only one format.
 * The countries listed for Europe should be in alphabeticall order.
 * I think the succession boxes are too long, it should be trimed down. There is no need to have every chart listed.
 * I don't know if this is a requierement for GA, but the references need to be corrected. Many of them have the wrong names, for example "Lady Gaga throws off Silbermond from the top", I couldn't find it in the article, the correct one is "Swiss Singles Top 100: Issue Date: Sunday March 15th, 2009.
 * Some of the publishers are incorrect too, for example the BBC is not the publisher for the UK Singles Chart, is the The Official Charts Company.
 * Done --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 06:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

The formatting of references is quite shaky. Dates should be (October 25, 2008) for the publishing date and "Retrieved on October 25, 2008" for the retrieve date. Check to the italics on publishers. Websites, news channels usually aren't in italics. Magazines, newspapers, books usually are. You also need to remove the image of her performing life. Absolutely no fair use rational would be sufficient to support that particular image of a living person. — R  2  09:43, 17 April 2009 (UTC)