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Raven Tales
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because myself and and several other editors have spent the past week working together as part of the Today%27s_articles_for_improvement improving this article from what had previously been this: |hardly a stub to this. Even though TAFI has moved on, I've continued to fine tune this article and need some constructive criticism to improve it further. Thanks. David Condrey (talk) 00:52, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your and others edits to this. Folklore and tradition, particularly of Indigenous peoples, is such a neglected sphere on WP, so it's great to see it receiving some attention. I'd encourage you to nominate straight for WP:GA, as I think it has a good chance of meeting the criteria. In addition, you might receive some more in-depth feedback there. Other thoughts:
 * The more I read this, the more I realize how it is such a large undertaking
 * Perhaps if it was considered a list, you could try for a featured list?
 * In order to prepare for it, you'll have to conclude the merge requests.
 * You will need to provide sources for unsourced areas of the article, of which there are several
 * I also feel some sections could be expanded, particularly where there's a subsection title and just a list.
 * You may consider linking to the articles on the different tribes or dialects
 * A standard format for each subsection would make editing a lot easier. Something like "The tales of people x describe the raven (local pronunciation here) as ..."
 * Including a little background information on the creation myths or geographical local of the tribes would also add some depth
 * Is there a reason that both parts of the title are in capitals? I think in general we try and keep article names in sentence case

That said, this is a very interesting article and a large undertaking! Feel free to ask any questions, these are just my thoughts so take them with a grain of salt! Kindly, --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for taking the time to review the article and left such excellent feedback. I'm sure glad I didn't close this review as I nearly did yesterday when I was checking messages and saw that this looked to be growing spiderwebs.  Motivated by your attention, I have left a banner on the article to avoid any editors making any conflicting edits, and am hoping to rally the team over at [Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement to assist in further editing the article with your comments and any further potential comments left during it's review in mind.  Once satisfied that all recommendations have been addressed I will certainly nominate for WP:GA as you suggested.  I'd prefer to wait until it's nice and shiny before placing the nomination prematurely.  I may not be able to get to this until late in the week, perhaps even this weekend but it will be done soon.
 * I had previously left a comment on the WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America talk page but was unsuccessful in getting any feedback but have gone ahead and left a message again to notify of my intention and hopefully get some more feedback.
 * During the course of it's original editing, it was mentioned on the articles talk page about potentially adjusting this to become more of a list article. I'm not familiar with list articles but will look into this recommendation further, especially since it's not the first time it's been suggested.  Can you offer any further guidance on this?  As well, would you mind pointing out the areas which you see could use citation?
 * David Condrey (talk) 04:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)