Wikipedia:Peer review/Rick Warren/archive1

Rick Warren
Well, I actually think that this article should be a Featured Article Candidate (FAC), but I'm somewhat new to this world, and preferred to ask some help on judging it from older Wikipedians.

The main problem of this article was POV, but I think it's quite solved. Today, he's being vandalised often, so please don't mind if you find something like "I'm the devil and going to kill you" in some part of the article - I'm reverting it as fast as possible. --FernandoAires 14:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, AZ t 15:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The opening, which is currently a single sentence, should be expanded. It should tell the reader who the person is, in a nutshell, and why he (or she, in other cases) is important.  You don't have to mention everything which is included in the article in the intro, but it helps lead into the article if you mention a few of the major points.  Secondly, I would provide a few examples of the things mentioned in the first paragraph of the criticisms section. Jacob1207 19:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Great start! Here's some comments which are hopefully not too annoying: Anyway, this was a fun read, good luck!--Will.i.am 10:24, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Definitely agree with Jacob1207, the lead needs to have a real paragraph.
 * 2) You're probably working on those "citation needed" things, but FAC won't even really look at the article until all of them are referenced.
 * 3) The sentence about Warren's mentors in Ministry doesn't really seem to belong there (probably better off in biography?)
 * 4) Same thing with Family section, it's probably too sort to get it's own space unless you're going to significantly expand it.
 * 5) Nitpick: notes 6 and 10 are on the wrong side of the period.
 * 6) How about a short section on Saddleback Church? I know it has it's own article (in pretty poor shape), but since it pertains directly to what Warren does right now, I'd have at least a small section with a Main Article link.
 * 7) How about a section on his books? His bibliography is listed and the article mentions that his books give him enough salary to live off just 10% of it, but it would be nice to know  what he writes about and who reads it (going back to what makes him important).


 * First of all, thank you all for all the feedback.
 * I created a larger intro description, but looked at no example about how should it be done. I'll look at it later, but feel free to refer a good example. I also joined the Mentor's reference and Family section on biography. I'll take care of other feedbacks later, but I don't disagree about any of them. --FernandoAires 08:01, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

''A guy from 72.26.158.119 questioned me about allegied censorship. Rick Warren's talk page is the best place for we to discuss about this matter. I'm moving the discussion to there.'' --FernandoAires 18:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)