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Romances
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because the article was listed as a GA and I would like to get it to FA.
 * Previous peer review

Thanks, Erick (talk) 16:36, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Lead
 * Comments by R8R Gtrs
 * The second starts with "It is," and third one with "It was." Maybe reword the third one like "Aside from Miguel, the production also involved"?
 * "Romances consists..." is this appropriate in AmE? As I remember, Deep Purple are a band in the UK, but is a band in the U.S.
 * Another linguistic thing: you write "El reloj," in the U.S. and 'El reloj', in the UK. Applies for the whole article.
 * "United States, Mexico, South America, and Spain" no possibility of spelling out South America?
 * Dates for single releases may be helpful (infobox).

Background
 * "also became successful in countries outside of Latin America and the United States, such as Finland and Saudi Arabia" I wish to see a ref after both countries' names, even if this'll be a duplication of refs in the of the sentence.
 * May be logical to finish the third para with original songs rather than covers (standing before originals, which are also preceded by covers)

Recording and production

Pretty fine, but not too short?

Album
 * "number one, a mark it was able to hit for a total of" no way to word better?
 * "number-one" number one?
 * "diamond" this one is uncommon; is it like platinum x10?
 * "As of 1999 the album has sold over 4.5 million copies worldwide." what about "Over 4.5 million copies of the album were sold, as of 1999"?

Singles
 * Some single titles are translated, some are not. consistency please.
 * I bet more could be added. At least seems so, as a sentence covers a place in a chart. For two songs, and that's all. Maybe date releases, song meanings, release way (radio, CDs, whatever)?

Promotion

Pretty fine, but please mention that two shows were canceled.

Critical reception and awards
 * "I give his review * and 'Romances' ****" maybe spell out the stars (which are here actually asterisks)
 * "At the 40th Grammy Awards Miguel received an award" comma, the?

Legacy to See also

OK

References

Check them all. Ref 4 has no review date, ref 7 misses the article title, some have no author (especially weblinks). Just check carefully. In general, it's a good article. Keep it up!

If you found this review useful, please consider participating in a PR I'm holding, the one on astatine (here)--R8R Gtrs (talk) 13:10, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Response: Okay, I'll go over your addresses: Thanks for the review, Erick (talk) 19:00, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lead: I've reworded the sentence to your suggestion. I am very confused on what you're trying to say from Points 2-4. For dates, I can find no exact release date except for the lead single.
 * Background: I've reused a ref and I added original compositions to the back.
 * Recording and production: Not sure else to add here especially since that was all I could find.
 * Album: I removed the hyphen and reworded the last issue.
 * Singles: Some of the songs are already translated before so I'm not sure if it should be done again. Well I did mention that the lead single was released on radio airplay, so anyone suggested on how I could put it in?
 * Promotion: I can find no sources to verify the cancelled shows except from fansites.
 * Critical reception and awards: It's part of the quote, so I'm not sure how to change it and comma after what?
 * References: Allmusic does not have the date they review articles and I only found the author of the article for ref 7 but couldn't find the title of the article.

Replies to your comments: Yours,--R8R Gtrs (talk) 12:04, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * (I don't claim to speak American English (any English) better than a native American. English is only second language for me) but I still clearly remember what I was taught back in school and the foreign languages academy. Commas and periods are usually kept inside the citation signs in the U.S. ("I do," she said.) as compared to British style ('I do', she said.) When a singular noun means a group of people/anything (such as band names), it is treated as a singular noun in the U.S. and a plural one in Britain (The Fire are a band (UK)/The Fire is a band (U.S.)), and such a plural is always plural with the exception of United States. (United States is a country in North America). About South America, either a list of all countries or an even shorter list (U.S., Spain, Latin America) would do better. Mexico isn't that different from Venezuela in this sense.
 * "reached number one, a mark it was able to hit for a total of" still don't like it. How'bout "became number one, which it has been for a total of (... since)". Or ditch "held" in the next sentence like "In ... chart, it was even more successful, having been number one for 13 weeks." Or whatever.
 * Got the translation point. No way of adding similar info for other singles? The section seems to be clearly missing it.
 * "At the 40th Grammy Awards Miguel received an award" → "At the 40th Grammy Awards, Miguel received the award" seems like the award was unique at the festival, and none else got there another such an award.
 * OK, but that's what you're likely to be asked at the FAC. Also, review dates (as I remember) are review dates made by Wikipedians to show the material is relevant.
 * I've searched high and low and still couldn't find reliable sources to verify the shows were cancelled. The closest I found was an article where Miguel was originally scheduled to perform at the Starplex Ampitheatre at Dallas, but it does not mentioned being cancelled and nothing comes up for Venezuela. At the best, I think it's better to leave it this way because the tour has it's own article where the reader can find a more extensive information on dates and places of the tour as the main album article only summarizes key events in the tour. Otherwise, I've touched on everything you said. I've read your edit summary, I'm not the best person to do an article on a chemistry-related article as I wouldn't know anything about it. Sorry. Erick (talk) 21:26, 20 November 2011 (UTC)