Wikipedia:Peer review/Socrates/archive1

Socrates
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I'd like to one day nominate it for FA status, and am after informed, specific feedback on it's current state - from glaring weaknesses, to positive strengths. Any and all thoughts would be much appreciated!

Hopefully I can use some of the suggestions as a road map for the work necessary before a bid to reach FA is possible....

Thanks, Privatemusings (talk) 00:00, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments by Ealdgyth First, it is lacking seriously in citations if you're planning on going to FAC with it. A general rule of thumb at FAC is that every paragraph should have a source listed at the end of the paragraph, at the very least. Also, every quotation should be cited. The sources you're using mostly look okay to me, but the source for footnote 1 is probably a bit old to actually be using. Also the PhilipCoppens.com site looks self published to me, and the actual article you're using quotes no sources, so it would probably fail as a reliable source. I might consider moving the sources section to the beginning of the article, as it's pretty much the foundation of the whole article. Given how few ancient sources we have on Socrates, discussing them first is probably a better order than relagating that discussion to later in the article. I didn't do a serious read of the article, mainly because at the moment the lack of sources is going to be the biggest single issue. It wouldn't even make it past GA as it stands. You probably need to branch out a bit on the sourcing, look at Michael Grant's works as a starting point and see what he uses as sources for Socrates. I regret to say I don't have much on the history of Philosophy myself, so nothing I have on my shelves would be much help here with more sources. First step is to get the article sourced with inline citations. Ealdgyth | Talk 04:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks heaps for taking the time to comment, Ealdgyth (and I hope this note is appropriate to the forum... please refactor to talk etc. if best....) - I take your points re:sourcing - particularly the philipcoppens.com one, which I'll look into, and likely usurp... I think your idea about bringing the 'sources' section to the fore is interesting, and would like to to hear others' thoughts on that too..... once again, thanks! - Privatemusings (talk) 07:06, 8 March 2008 (UTC)