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Speers Point, New South Wales
I've listed this article for peer review because…Its been taken from a stubbly stub to a nicely written article, which the main contributor (Auroranorth) is trying to get upto GA class. Needs a second set of eyes. Cheers. Twenty Years 13:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Twenty Years
The article looks quite good, but i have found some minor problems:
 * In the infobox it says SP is located 18km WSW of Newcastle, yet in the Geography section it says its 17km West of Newcastle. Needs a source to conclude that one is correct.
 * In the infobox, in the location section again, i think it should be from Sydney CBD, not from Charleston, with all due respect to the 11,000 people that live there, no-one knows where the hell it is! People know where Sydney is. Might also be worth having Canberra there too.
 * The image in the Education section the image of the school logo, the Fair use rationale is a bit whacked, it needs to be fixed up in order to meet the requirements for this exact article, not a generic FUR that is slapped on every article.
 * I know this is very nit-picky, but in the image: this one the colours of the lines are somewhat misleading, i would suggest using a neutral tone for the "Others", as green seems to represent the Greens. Red is also used for the liberal bar (red is used quite prominantly in the ALP logo), Id swap the libs and labour bar colours around, so its less misleading, or making the key larger.
 * The short sections in the facilities sections break the flow of the article. We need to be realistic here; you are not going to write a massive section on Churches in SP, so why not just merge the 3 bits together, and have a nice big flowing section.
 * What happened to the rainfall/temperature table? i liked that.
 * Keep up the good work Auror. Twenty Years 13:22, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Comments/replies
 * 18km WSW is correct (I'm looking at a street directory).
 * Charlestown is the nearest major urban district, just as a Perth article might use Joondalup, Fremantle or Morley for a reference point. That being said, it's not strictly necessary if Newcastle is already there.
 * Good point re ordering. Re colouring - convention on WikiProject Australian Politics (which actually derives from the ABC's election night displays - see for instance here) dictates Liberal/Coalition be blue and Labor be red - this despite both having red and blue in their logos. My suggestion would be that as there is one very consistent winner in this suburb, to have Labor first, Liberal second and others last. Agreed with need for neutral colour - eg light grey.
 * Weather doesn't relate to Speers Point (the station is if I recall 25km away) so I don't see any reason to include it. Orderinchaos 14:31, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, APR t 15:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Peripitus
A few comments on the article:
 * The lead is a bit short and doesn't summarise the article, particularly the facilities, education and industry sections.
 * A few too many sentences starting "In " make it read like a dot-point list. Eg:
 * In 1920, a rowing boat (later hire boat and ferry) service operated across Cockle Creek, however a footbridge was constructed in 1928
 * Could be ... Pedestrian crossing of Cockle Creek was by a rowing boat service from 1920. This was later replaced with a hire boat and ferry then the 1928 construction of a footbridge.

- Peripitus (Talk) 07:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Could do with a map of the suburb
 * The opening dates for the schools (History section) are disconnected with the schools (Education section). It should all probably be in the Education section
 * Unwikilink the individual years (1828 -> 1828) per the style manual