Wikipedia:Peer review/St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador/archive1

St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because the page has undegone a lot of work in recent months but has been unable to move past a "B" rating, I'm looking for input because I'm unsure what else to do.

Thanks, Jordo72 (talk) 16:51, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: Thanks for your work on this article. Here are some suggestions for improvement with an eye to GAN. Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:32, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * First off, to get past B class, an article either has to go for WP:GA or WP:FA (or A-class, which is rare outside of military history). It is easier to pass GAN than FAC, but I do not see that this has ever been nominated for GA (it was nominated unsuccessfully for FA back in 2008). I will review this as if it were up at GAN.
 * Biggest problem with the article right now is references. First off many paragraphs have no refs and need them - look at the History section for example. My rule of thumb is that every quote, every statistic, every extraordinary claim and every paragraph needs a ref.
 * The refs that are used do not have enough information given. Internet refs need URL, title, author if known, publisher and date accessed. cite web and other cite templates may be helpful. See WP:CITE and WP:V
 * Some of the refs look like the may not be to reliable sources - what makes tourcanada.com a reliable source, for example?
 * The external link checker tool on this page (Toolbox) finds about 9 dead external links (refs) that are dead and need to be fixed. All of these ref problems would be a quick fail at GAN.
 * The disambig links tool also finds some dabs that need to be fixed.
 * For prose, spell out abbreviations on first use. So "Census Metropolitan Area (CMA)"
 * The article has several short (one or two sentence) paragraphs that interrupt the flow of the prose and should either be combined with others or perhaps expanded.
 * I would also avoid bullet lists like the SPorts section in favor of prose, wherever possible.
 * Also watch out for WP:OVERLINKing - the CMA is linked twice in the lead alone
 * A model article is useful for ideas and examples to follow - there are many FAs on cities and Hamilton, Ontario is one. It is from 2007, so it may be a bit out of date compared to more recent FAs