Wikipedia:Peer review/The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion/archive1

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
I've been working on this article sporadically for a while, and I'm looking for some input on what else to do with it. --PresN 05:21, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Krator
Big points:
 * Excessive use of quotes (like: "level", "Paradise", 'life', "sandbox", "leveled" and "Blood of a Divine") throughout the whole article. Things that have an unusual name (like level in Oblivion context) without an internal link specific for that meaning should be made italic (e.g.: level system), and those with an internal link should be not within quotes (e.g.: Paradise). Quotes from cited sources should be rephrased, or use  . The reception section is a huge clutter of quotes right now.


 * The Overview section is just a pile of information stitched together. Move the first four paragraphs to a 'development' section just before 'reception', and the last two to the lead section.


 * Section structure of the first few sections is confusing. Separate by world, lore, and story information, and Gameplay information. Move guilds a and playable races to setting, and write something about the gameplay. Check out Final Fantasy VIII, a FA, for a good example (though it names the section Plot, which I wouldn't do).
 * Split it up into sections, though I wouldn't call it done yet. --PresN 01:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Gameplay and Story need images.

Smaller points/nitpicking:
 * Try to cut some information from the infobox. Long infoboxes are not well-read. Make the image smaller as well - consider having only the logo and name as image, and use the full box cover somewhere else.


 * WP:LS. Lead section is poor.
 * ✅, I think. I tried to model it off of Final Fantasy VIII's. --PresN 01:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Gameplay of the Elder Scrolls series shouldn't be a main article, but a see also.


 * Guilds section is poorly written and unreferenced.
 * Story is too long. Cut non-essential information, or move to a separate article. A good way to do this might be to move the information to "The Elder Scrolls" articles instead of this one, like Cyrodiil.
 * Translation errors is a fourth-level section header, should be third.


 * Reviews table is too wide. Should be half of the page (on 1024) maximum, and even then the column of text next to it should be made text-align:justify with a div.
 * I narrowed it, but I'm not sure what you mean by text-align:justify with a div --PresN 01:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ Done it myself - see my most recent edit. Non-justified text next to a table is unreadable. --User:Krator (t c) 08:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, now I see what you mean. --PresN 15:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Downloadable is an awful neologism, especially in a section header. Consider rephrasing.


 * Reorganise references to the official game guide. Twelve times the same reference is not good, I'm not sure how it should be done, but I do know that someone must have encountered this problem before, so a template might exist.


 * Why are only wiki fansites listed? This is Wikipedia, not a guide to all wikis. List a few fansites (three or so), and leave it at that. If one of these happens to be a wiki, so be it, but don't make exceptions for wikis.
 * I do not consider this done, really. It still lists these sites only. --User:Krator (t c) 08:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hashed it up again, only one wiki linked now. --PresN 01:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hashed it up again, only one wiki linked now. --PresN 01:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

--User:Krator (t c) 22:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

PS: I would appreciate it the appropriate parts of this review could be marked with a ✅ template, if any edits are made based on it, or made because of it.
 * Thanks! It has some pretty serious flaws, but they do get hard to see after a while.  --PresN 01:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)