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===The Great American Bash (2005)===


 * A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style; it can be found on the automated peer review page for July 2008.
 * A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style; it can be found on the automated peer review page for July 2008.

This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I created it myself, and I have hopes of it becoming a Featured Article.

Cheers, -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 23:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC) :Note: Because of its length, this peer review is not transcluded. It is still open and located at Peer review/The Great American Bash (2005)/archive1.

Ealdgyth
Comments from
 * You said you wanted to know what to work on before taking to FAC, so I looked at the sourcing and referencing with that in mind. I reviewed the article's sources as I would at FAC.
 * What makes the following reliable sources?
 * http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/index.php
 * They have a group of established writers/owners/editors. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 16:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I have replaced these references with those from WrestleView. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 22:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * http://www.pwwew.net/
 * This -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 16:41, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * http://prowrestlinghistory.com/
 * Ref replaced. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 16:50, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Current ref 29 (Great American Bash 2005) Is lacking a publisher.
 * Same for current refs 33 and 34 (Video Sales)
 * Hope this helps. Please note that I don't watchlist Peer Reviews I've done. If you have a question about something, you'll have to drop a note on my talk page to get my attention. (My watchlist is already WAY too long, adding peer reviews would make things much worse.) 15:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Further comments by LAX
I will get to the aftermath and complete my review later on today. -- L A  X  19:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Event
 * I would suggest noting that Undertaker powerbombed Hassan through the entrance stage. And that Hassan was kayfabe injured as a result (in the aftermath section).
 * I don't really think The Mexicools versus The bWo was a "main event match". I would move that up to the plim matches.
 * What is a "Three Amigos"?
 * "Frog Splash" should be lowercase, as should "Special Guest Referee".
 * Could you use any other word choice besides "retaliated". You tend to use that a lot.
 * I only used it three times. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 19:10, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know if it's just me, but I still think it's kind of repetitive. -- L A  X  19:12, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, what does "change hands" mean? -- L A  X  19:43, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Gavyn Sykes

 * Lead
 * In Paragraph three, only one source is present, which only covers the event being able for free to American war vets. The rest of the info in that paragraph needs a citation
 * No it doesn't as all of the information is covered in the reception section in the article and sourced there. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 22:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In that case, shoudl the info not be sourced in it's first instance? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:56, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well information does not need to be sourced in the lead. Since all of the info is covered in the article. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 22:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok then, I was unaware of that guideline. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 23:00, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Background
 * What "brand" means in this context might warrant an explanation.
 * Only five wrestlers are listed to determine a new SD champion. Was that a typo or is there is a missing name?
 * "After the match, JBL and Orlando Jordan tried to attack Batista, who countered the attack by attacking Batista instead."
 * Not sure what that means. It sounds like Batista attacked himself based on the wording, which obviously isn't what happened.
 * Batista Bomb needs a link and/or explanation, as does spinebuster.


 * Event
 * Define "cruiserweight."

Hope this helps, Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I've completed your requests, thanks! -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 22:29, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad to help. :) Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:56, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * During your edits, you removed the explanation and wikilink for Powerslam. Why? And wasn't the weight limit for the CW title 215 pounds, not 200? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 23:00, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I didn't remove it, I moved it up to "Batista Bomb" as it is the same things. Also, per Cruiserweight, it is 200 and I was unable to find a source for either. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 10:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait, what? A powerslam and a powerbomb are not the same thing. The result is the same, but the setup for each move is different and each has a separate article. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 14:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * }}

D.M.N.
Only one comment: Don't the Results need to be wikilinked like in all the other PPV articles? Consistency is what we need. D.M.N. (talk) 08:50, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well per a Wikipedia guideline, WP:OVERLINK, it should not be linked twice in the same articles. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 10:38, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, but shouldn't it be like this in all PPV articles then? D.M.N. (talk) 11:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes it should be. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 20:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

SRX (event)

 * Event


 * Before the pay-per-view went live, a match took place on the Sunday Night HEAT pre-show between Paul London and Nunzio for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship (a championship that can only be competed for by cruiserweights--those wrestlers who weigh less than two-hundred pounds), which London won to retain the title.
 * HEAT should be written in regular font per WP:PW/MOS and WP:MOS.
 * I find it redundant to explain the concept of the championship, it's really not needed, its like saying the tag team championship can only be contested between tag teams, which is not true, and the cruiserweight championship has gone under many different weight limits.
 * The first match on the card was between MNM (Johnny Nitro and Joey Mercury) (with Melina) and The Legion of Doom (Heidenreich and Road Warrior Animal) for the WWE Tag Team Championship. During the match, Nitro hit Animal with one of the championship belts, but Animal retaliated by executing a powerslam to Nitro. Animal and Heidenreich performed the doomsday device, performed by one wrestler hoisting the opponent on their shoulders as another wrestler climbs the ring post to the top turnbuckle and delivers a flying attack onto the opponent, on Nitro and got the pin to win the match and capture the titles -
 * MNM is already linked in the background
 * Johnny Nitro and Joey Mercuty needs to be written in the background section with links to their respective articles.
 * What is a "powerslam"?
 * Instead of "with", you should use "managed"
 * The next match was between Booker T (with Sharmell) and Christian. Booker T won the match after a scissors kick, a kicking technique that resembles a pair of scissors
 * Like I said above, maybe "managed by" is a better word here than "with"
 * is there a better way to elaborate "scissors kick", not getting much out it from the current explanation.
 * Jordan avoided the attack and instead forced Benoit to run head first into the exposed turnbuckle. Jordan got the pin to win the match and retain the title
 * Head first, hmm, is there a better way to write that.
 * ''The fourth match was between The Undertaker and Muhammad Hassan (with Daivari). During Hassan's entrance, men in masks walked out to represent his Arabic culture. The men who appeared for Hassan's entrance interfered in the match, but Undertaker retaliated and cleared the ring of all of the masked men. Midway through the match, Undertaker attempted a tombstone onto Hassan, but Hassan broke free of the hold and attempted to clothesline Undertaker. The Undertaker countered by performing a chokeslam, performed by wrapping your hand around your opponent's throat, lifting them up and slamming them down the the ring mat. Undertaker scored the pinfall on Hassan to win the match.
 * Like I said above "managed by" might be a better word(s) than "with"
 * "cleared the ring," as an outside reader that sounds awkward, can that be reworded.
 * What is a tombstone?
 * What is a clothesline?
 * Maybe you should say, "The Undertaker countered the attack, by ...etc."
 * The tombstone is not a submission hold, so how could Hassan break it if it's not a hold?
 * At the match's end, Crazy performed a moonsault onto Richards, and Psicosis performed a legdrop, performed by one wrestler jumping and landing on the fallen opponent's chest, throat, face, or head. Psicosis proceeded to pin Richards and win the match for his team.
 * What is a moonsault?
 * "proceeded to pin Richards" ---> "proceeded to pinning Richards"
 * The following match was between Rey Mysterio and Eddie Guerrero, where the stipulation was that if Guerrero won the match, he would reveal the secret he has been hiding from the public that Mysterio and Guerrero's families both did not want revealed. If Mysterio won, however, Guerrero would not reveal the secret. Guerrero performed the Three Amigos, three vertical suplexes, to Mysterio at twice in the match. Guerrero performed a frog splash, which is performed by leaping from the top rope and stretching out, then bringing one's feet and hands in and outward before landing atop of your opponent, onto Mysterio. Guerrero then tried to score the pinfall, but Mysterio countered and pinned Guerrero to win the match. As a result, Guerrero was not able to reveal the secret.[20][21]
 * What is a "vertical suplex"?
 * "Guerrero performed the Three Amigos to Mysterio at twice in the match" --> That makes no sense. Reword?
 * How did Mysterio counter?
 * The seventh match was between Melina and Torrie Wilson (with Candice Michelle as special guest referee), in a Bra and Panties match. The only way to win a "Bra and Panties match" is to strip your opponent's clothes off until they are left in their underwear. At the start of the match, Melina pulled off Wilson's shirt to reveal her bra, but Wilson retaliated and pulled off Melina's shirt. Wilson executed a suplex to Melina and attempted to pull off her pants, but Melina countered the attack by pulling Torrie's pants off to win the match. Afterwards, Michelle stripped Melina and then removed her own clothes, as well.[20][21]
 * "as special guest referee" ---> "as the special guest referee"
 * "What is a suplex? (If this is already explained earlier, no need in doing it again)
 * I don't see why Michelle's involvement at the end is notable in any way.
 * Well, it attracts reads, considering it got the article a DYK?. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 00:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * was between John "Bradshaw" Layfield (JBL) (with Orlando Jordan) and Batista for the World Heavyweight Championship. Jordan interfered by attempting to hit Batista with a steel chair, but Batista grabbed the chair from him. Batista hit Jordan and JBL with the chair, and JBL was declared the winner, via disqualification. In WWE, a title cannot change hands by pinfall or disqualification (the ultimate scoring conditions in professional wrestling matches). As a result, Batista retained the title.[20][21][23]
 * "with" ---> "managed by"
 *  Jordan interfered by attempting to hit Batista with a steel chair, but Batista grabbed the chair from him. Batista hit Jordan and JBL with the chair, and JBL was declared the winner, via disqualification. - these are so closely connected but they do not flow in transition, needs to be fixed.
 * I'm pretty sure a title can change hands by pinfall.
 * "the ultimate scoring conditions"? What is meant by that?

A lot of prose issues pertaining to jargon and in-universe, that's my review of the event. S R X  14:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Requests/Concerns addressed. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 00:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)