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The Smiths discography

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 * A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style; it can be found on the automated peer review page for July 2008.

This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I'm looking to take it to WP:FLC but feel it could do with copyediting first (not my strong point).

Thanks, JD554 (talk) 12:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Music videos? You'll need to cite each of the directors too. Use mvdbase as a starting point, but they aren't considered reliable enough to cite.
 * The trouble is that source is extremely unreliable: half of what it claims are videos were actually one-offs for a specific TV program. Without a reliable source for which songs had proper promo videos and their directors, I felt it best to leave them out.
 * You don't need to list everything given there, pick out ones that you know were reeleased as a video ("This Charming Man") for example). The discog would not be comprehensive otherwise. indopug (talk) 14:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Can't you check that The Complete Picture DVD for credits? From what I know it has all the music videos. WesleyDodds (talk) 20:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Good idea. indopug (talk) 20:39, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Tribute albums needn't be listed per MOS:DISCOG since they aren't by The Smiths themselves.
 * Removed.


 * I think a sentence mentioning the plethora of compilations released after they disbanded deserves a mention in the lead.
 * Done.


 * The "Title" column width of the various tables can be reduced; there's a lot of empty space on my screen.
 * Reformated. It was that wide because of the tributes, but now that bit's gone...


 * The Other album appearnances should only include songs specifically written for that record or those that weren't released before.
 * Those are unique versions not available elsewhere at the time of release.


 * If you get hold of a Smiths book, maybe you can find chart positions of other territories ... ask around.
 * I've checked the online sources for European charts (Lescharts.com etc), but the ones listed are all I can find.


 * Since there are free pics of Marr and Morrissey, I think you can combine them to create a composite pic for the infobox.
 * The free pics of Morrissey all seem to be post-The Smiths.
 * That's alright; some pic is better than no pic. It serves the same "encyclopedic purpose" of identifying the band members. indopug (talk) 14:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Image added --JD554 (talk) 10:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

indopug (talk) 12:47, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, --JD554 (talk) 13:34, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Comment Some of those singles should be listed as non-album singles, unless they were specifically released to promote a specific compilation. For example, those three 84-85 singles weren't actually singles from Hatful of Hollow; they were non-album singles compiled on the release. WesleyDodds (talk) 20:56, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The same holds for "Charming Man". It was only included on the US version of The Smiths. Even "hand in Glove" was released much before the album, obviously without the intention of promoting it. indopug (talk)
 * I think I've got the singles sorted. The last two which were released after they disbanded I think were released by WEA to promote those compilations. --JD554 (talk) 10:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments from
 * You said you wanted to know what to work on before taking to FLC, so I looked at the sourcing and referencing with that in mind. I reviewed the article's sources as I would at FAC. (Bear in mind that FAC and FLC might have differing requirements about where to put citations, but the reliability of sourcing should stay the same between the two processes.)
 * You've mixed using the Template:Citation with the templates that start with Cite such as Template:Cite journal or Template:Cite news. They shouldn't be mixed per WP:CITE.
 * What makes http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/index.htm a reliable source?
 * Likewise http://www.nwoutpost.com/default.asp?
 * Hope this helps. Please note that I don't watchlist Peer Reviews I've done. If you have a question about something, you'll have to drop a note on my talk page to get my attention. (My watchlist is already WAY too long, adding peer reviews would make things much worse.) 11:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)