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Theoren Fleury
This peer review discussion has been closed. The latest in my (unofficial) quest to bring every article related to Calgary hockey to FA status. As always, prose quality is something I am looking for feedback on, as well as an outside opinion on whether I've given all aspects of Fleury's life and career fair treatment. It's a complicated article, dealing with not only a standout hockey career, but also sexual abuse, substance abuse, attempted suicide and redemption. As such, thoughts on how well I've balanced the human story and the hockey story would be appreciated.

Thanks, Resolute 16:56, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Comments from
 * You said you wanted to know what to work on before taking to FAC, so I looked at the sourcing and referencing with that in mind. I reviewed the article's sources as I would at FAC.
 * What makes http://www.pointstreak.com/ a reliable source?
 * Alphabetize your general refs please
 * Hope this helps. Please note that I don't watchlist Peer Reviews I've done. If you have a question about something, you'll have to drop a note on my talk page to get my attention. (My watchlist is already WAY too long, adding peer reviews would make things much worse.) 15:45, 10 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Pointstreak is a company that is hired by many professional leagues, including the National Lacrosse League and American Hockey League to organize and host league statistics and standings. And general refs resorted, thanks! Resolute 17:31, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Finetooth comments: This interesting article is about ready for FAC. The mix of sports and autobiography seems about right; the article appears to be comprehensive, stable, neutral, and verifiable, and I think the images are sufficient. I made a fair number of small proofing changes, and I have other suggestions, mostly about prose and style.

Lead
 * "a brawl that saw Canada and the Soviet Union disqualified from the 1987 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships" - Since brawls don't literally see, perhaps "a brawl that led to the disqualification of Canada and the Soviet Union..."?
 * "He battled drug and alcohol addictions throughout his career, which ultimately forced him out of the NHL in 2003." - To get the modifier and thing modified together in this sentence, perhaps "Throughout his career he battled drug and alcohol addictions that ultimately forced..."?

Early life
 * "Fleury was born on June 29, 1968, in Oxbow, Saskatchewan, Canada, the first of Wally and Donna Fleury's three sons." - I think it's generally better to juxtapose the modifier and the thing modified. I'd incline toward "Fleury, the first of Wally and Donna Fleury's three sons, was born on June 29, 1968, in Oxbow, Saskatchewan, Canada." Otherwise it reads as though Canada was the first of three sons.
 * "He attended mass from age six to 12, serving as an altar boy until the church's priest died of a heart attack, depriving Fleury of one of his earliest positive influences." - Numbers smaller than 10 are usually written as words; however, WP:MOS says in part, "Comparable quantities should be all spelled out or all figures: we may write either 5 cats and 32 dogs or five cats and thirty‑two dogs, not five cats and 32 dogs." Since you've used "12" for the older age, I'd suggest using "6" rather than "six". It would be good to go through the whole article looking for similar situations.
 * "who was working as a scout for the Winnipeg Warriors of the Western Hockey League" - Give the abbreviation (WHL) here too? I believe it's the first use.

Junior
 * "In 1984–85 he moved onto the Moose Jaw Warriors" - Maybe just "to" rather than "onto"? Otherwise it sounds as if he climbed on top of the Warriors.
 * "Despite scoring 129 points for the Warriors in 1986–87,[11] Fleury's small stature led many teams to doubt... ". - Since his small stature did not score 129 points, perhaps "Although he scored 129 points for the Warriors in 1986–87, his small stature led many teams... "?

Calgary Flames
 * "He missed much of the pre-season with a stomach ailment, joined the team for the season opener." - Missing word? Perhaps "and joined the team"?
 * "The Flames, who had been struggling financially and unable to sign Fleury to a new contract, chose to trade Fleury less than two weeks... " - Missing word? Perhaps "who had been struggling financially and were unable to sign"?

Autobiography
 * "It is the second book about Fleury's life, following Fury, released in 1997, and which hid a lot of the problems he was facing at the time." - Delete "and"?

General
 * Each book ref needs a place of publication.

Images
 * Image:Theoren Fleury Vipers.JPG is licensed as "own work", but 39 kilobytes is awfully small for a self-made photograph. You might consider adding camera details or other information to the licensing page to explain the small size.

I hope these suggestions prove helpful. If so, please consider reviewing another article, especially one from the PR backlog. That is where I found this one. Finetooth (talk) 00:45, 15 December 2009 (UTC)