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University of Dayton Ghetto
I've listed this article for peer review because I've been working to overhaul an article that needed a lot of work over the last few months, and I've taken it from a sourceless mess to the point that I need some external input to continue any improvements. The article is about the most prominent feature at the University of Dayton, the Ghetto, and I'm looking for as high a rating from WP:UNI as I can get before I move on to my next project. Of special concern to me are any sections that need to be expanded upon so that the topic of the article is clear to a reader with no experience with the topic.

Thanks,

Newsboy85 04:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

IvoShandor
Hello, just stumbled on the article so I thought I would leave some feedback.


 * Is University of Dayton Ghetto the most commonly used term to describe the neighborhood? If it is not consider retitling the article as well as limiting the references to ghetto. While I am familiar with the concept of and the terminology student ghetto, the term ghetto, in general, regardless of what is referring to is usually considered pejorative.
 * Eliminate any external jumps in text, confine them to the references or an external links section.
 * At GA or FA the inclusion of a list in an article is highly discouraged, see WP:EMBED
 * Eventually, you will want to format the references properly. At the very least, they should link the title to the web page (if it is a web source), provide author, publisher, date published, and date of access (for web sources). I use the footnote method, but there are templates that supposedly help with this (I don't use them myself but some like them) at WP:CITET, also see WP:FN, and WP:CITE.
 * Context: While the street names are good to include, where is the neighborhood in relation to the city of Dayton, and any major interstates or other landmarks that might be easily recognizable by a non-Daytonian.

IvoShandor 05:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC) These are just some initial comments, I would be happy to provide more in depth commentary, and, when you are done, a copy edit. Good work so far. IvoShandor 05:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the comments. Ghetto is the most common term - the university is aware of the pejorative nature, hence the drive to rename it the South Student Neighborhood, but the students simply don't use the term, just like they didn't take to the last two university suggestions, the Village and the Triange. There's been discussion about the name, but consensus was reached four months ago with the last move. I wasn't aware of the policies on embedded links or lists, so I'll address that. And good suggestion on interstates and landmarks. Newsboy85 05:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Name situation sounds good to me, I was unaware of the discussion, but it is something that might be brought up, so be prepared to back it with sources. I also meant to mention, an article such as this might merit a section on and discussion of architecture within the neighborhood. IvoShandor 05:45, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * There are Dayton Daily News and USA Today articles that include the fact that Ghetto is the student term, so I'll be sure to include them as sources. As for architecture, I'll see what I can do - the university office of Residential Properties may have some information available. Newsboy85 05:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Are there any historic properties in the neighborhood? If there are they could be local landmarks or registered on the National Register of Historic Places, designations such as these require meticulous research and writing for the nominations and the forms are excellent resources for this type of information. IvoShandor 06:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The Darkside is adjacent to both the South Park Historic District and the Woodland Cemetery Gateway, Chapel and Office. Holy Angels is adjacent to St. Mary's Hall. However, at least according to the national register online information system, none of the houses themselves are considered historic. However, they should date to the same time as the South Park houses - it would be worth looking into. Newsboy85 06:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, APR t 03:29, 5 October 2007 (UTC)