Wikipedia:Picture peer review/Spider webs

Spider webs
Beautiful and high technical quality. I'm posting this here hoping to get some input as to which one is the best of the four. Personal preference for no. 2 --Fir0002 08:33, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Nominated by: Fir0002 08:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Comments:
 * Personally I'm rather at odds with you on this. I'd rank No2 last; I prefer the 'natural' look of the others rather than the web on the wire fence. But, to be honest, I'm not a huge fan of any of them. Not that they're not good, but it's on EV grounds I think they fall down. I think the dew looks artistic, but it seems to largely obscure the web itself, thereby reducing EV. Also, as best as I can tell, none of these has a spider on them; for mine, if I was going to support an FPC of a spider's web, I'd want it to show a spider. If I was to rank from favourite down, I'd go 3, 4, 1, 2. --jjron (talk) 15:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm yeah that's a good point you raise re: lack of spider. The only thing is that I'm not sure you could get a spider in a dewy web - and the dew definitely makes the web easier to see. But not sure if i'll nominate after all because as you say that is a problem with the content of the image. --Fir0002 10:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * True, can't say I can remember seeing a spider in a dewy web - but where do they go? And the dew does help make the web easier to see, that's true, you need a pretty good coincidence of web position and sunlight to make just a normal web this visible. Just thinking a bit more also - I can imagine if you did nominate a web with a spider in it as I suggested, I could just see the complaints coming that there wasn't enough detail on the spider, not up to our usual macro standards, etc. Could the spider actually be a deterrent to a nomination of a web? --jjron (talk) 08:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[[Image:Spider and web.jpg|thumb|Spider and Web]]
 * I have an image of a spider, as well as its web. .what do you think about it? Sorry Fir if I'm butting in. --Muhammad (talk) 19:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The picture itself looks OK, but the background leaves a lot to be desired, especially if you were thinking FPC. In particular that big white roof unfortunately washes out about a third of the web. The web itself also seems a bit messy at the top. I'd suggest trying to get a more consistently dark background (which could be hard, as to a degree you are limited by how the light is hitting the web) and going for a lower DOF so you blur the background as Fir has done (yours is shot at f/7.1 which puts the background too much in focus). (BTW, I notice you've got the 400D :-). Done much work with it yet?) --jjron (talk) 11:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll keep my eyes open for any more spiders and try doing what you suggested. Yes I got the 400D and its great. I have uploaded some of my recent pictures to commons. Would you please give me your opinion about them if and when you get the time? No hurries. Muhammad (talk) 12:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, just had a look. Umm, I'm having a little trouble knowing which ones are yours and which aren't. Following that link loads up a gallery, but I know at least some of those images aren't yours (perhaps you've done edits). Can you link to somewhere with just some of your recent shots? --jjron (talk) 14:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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