Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2007 October 25



Image:SarahPalin.jpg
No evidence that this has been released into the public domain.  But | seriously | folks   09:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. The uploader has made many copyright violations and dubious licence claims, and IMO we have no reason to assume accurate licensing of any uploads of where the license cannot be clearly seen from the source (when given). -- Infrogmation 16:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:MikeBeebeGovernor.jpg
No explanation why this is PD.  But | seriously | folks   09:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how to fix the code, but this is a photo I took myself and I release all rights. Bristle
 * OK, I certainly have no reason to doubt that. I changed the license tag on this image to PD-self and I withdraw my nomination. --  But | seriously | folks   03:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:MikeBeebeGovernorCropped.jpg
Cropped version of Image:MikeBeebeGovernor.jpg, which is a possibly unfree image.  But | seriously | folks   09:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I just cropped the image located at Image:MikeBeebeGovernor.jpg for a head shot. If that one is determined to be in violation, then this one should be removed as well. Cardsplayer4life 17:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Based on the one just above this, it appears the source image is just fine, so this one is as well. Withdrawn. --  But | seriously | folks   03:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Richardsonportrait.jpg
Per http://action.richardsonforpresident.com/page/content/termsofservice/, contents may only be used for personal noncommercial use.  But | seriously | folks   09:23, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Note that by viewing the above website, you will be revealing your IP to its owner.  S facets  23:37, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Gov_Ed_Rendell.jpg
We don't usually accept "an official from IT Services for the Pennsylvania government told me that this particular image had been released into the public domain."  But | seriously | folks   09:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - see commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Ed Rendell.jpg The Evil Spartan (talk) 01:59, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Image:Gov_Jim_Doyle.jpg
Claimed license ("Rich West of the governor's office gave me permission to use this image") is vague and unverifiable.  But | seriously | folks   09:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * There is a free use image of Gov. Doyle on Commons, so there is no reason to use a questionable photograph. Royal broil  04:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Image:George Reed.jpg
Photo of non-free image. Liftarn 09:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Felix_camacho.jpg
Given source is office of Governer of Guam. If this is a federal post, I'm not aware of it. Which is always possible.  But | seriously | folks   09:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Benigno_Repeki_Fitial.jpg
Given source is "Office of the Governor of the Northern Mariana Islands". If this is a federal post, I'm unaware of it. Which is always possible.  But | seriously | folks   09:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:JamesAviation.jpg
Claims PD, but source site says nothing. Liftarn 09:49, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The uploader, User:Mozasaur, is Paul Moss, the photographer. It seems clear he is releasing his own photo into the public domain.- gadfium 19:03, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Why isn't it tagged PD-self then? // Liftarn

Image:Skydivingcresco.jpg
Text sayd PD, tag said promo. What is it? Lacks source too. Liftarn 09:51, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:WindsorSuburbanRoadsmap.png
Looks like a crop from a commercial map program. I don't believe the "self-made" claim. Lupo 09:53, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's lines drawn on the Ministry of Transportation (Ontario) map, which is unfree. --NE2 13:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I uploaded the image, but i'll shove a copyright tag on there. RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 21:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:CRESCO TOP DRESSING.JPG
How did it became PD? Liftarn 09:53, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Read what it says on the file -- PAC Cresco pic supplied on request by PAC and released into the Public Domain. .Moriori 19:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but where's the proof of that? Trust, but verify. The paperwork has to be in order. // Liftarn


 * I think we usually want the copyright holder to confirm via otrs unless there is a link to some declaration of PD. 1 != 2  15:53, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:LakeErieCircleTour.gif
Claimed to be PD-ineligible. I fail to see why. Lupo 10:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I added the wrong tag by accident. Let me edit it and put the right one in. I didn't notice i put the wrong one in until i was notified. *goes to fix* RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 18:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Freeston.jpg
Clearly, invalid license but this may still be public domain. Pascal.Tesson 13:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Keira Knightley and Thalmann.jpg
The Thalmann image is from Image:Ernst Thälmann2.jpg, but the Keira Knightley is of unknown origin. Liftarn 13:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Photo is from a movie Love Actually can be found here: http://www.keiraknightley.com/media/displayimage.php?album=89&pos=22 Ceriy 17:35, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:HU002891.jpg
No info that the author had been dead for more than 100 years. Liftarn 13:38, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Tag seems dubious. But is there still any copyright on governmental works of pre-WWI Tsarist Russia? Wondering, -- Infrogmation 04:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Could be PD-Russia, but then we need to know if the author died before January 1st, 1954. // Liftarn

Image:PICT4159.JPG
Photo of a photo of unknown copyright status. Liftarn 13:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Kept as non-free as subject is deceased. -- But | seriously | folks   04:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:PICT4166.JPG
Photo of a photo of unknown copyright status. Liftarn 13:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:PICT4160.JPG
Photo of a photo of unknown copyright status. Liftarn 13:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:PICT4141.JPG
Photo of a photo of unknown copyright status. Liftarn 13:48, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:PICT4142.JPG
Photo of a photo of unknown copyright status. Liftarn 13:48, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:PICT4150.JPG
Photo of a photo of unknown copyright status. Liftarn 13:49, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:PICT4153.JPG
Photo of a photo of unknown copyright status. Liftarn 13:50, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Hans von Seeckt.jpg
Nothing says it's PD. Liftarn 13:53, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * PD-Germany give 70 years after death of photographer. As subject died 71 year ago, it might be argued, however, without certain proof.  Also, DE wiki seems to have removed same image.  SkierRMH (talk) 01:04, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

It seems to be a picture taken from the book "The Nemesis of Power" by the historian Wheeler-Bennet. I do not think it falls under copyright anymore. Whosoever took the picture, must be long dead and the copyright must be expired by now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.79.200.14 (talk) 15:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Image:Zx82.jpg and Image:Zx82-3.jpg
No proof it's PD. Liftarn 14:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I was worried about this a while back, and got confirmation from Rick (via World of Spectrum; note Rick is active on the forums there) that he is happy for these to be classed as PD ("They're free for the taking -the more the better - can't stand copyright and patents"). I can probably get Rick to confirm this formally if this isn't enough. --Pak21 15:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Good. I've been in contact with him over at Flickr and asked him to use a suitable license (he has changed it from "All rights reserved" to CC-BY-NC-SA). // Liftarn
 * The permission probably needs to be filed in the OTRS system. // Liftarn
 * CC-BY-NC-SA is a nonfree license, though, as it prohibits commerical use. -- RG2 23:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have written to him regarding that, but so far I haven't gotten a reply. But as Pak21 says he seems willing to release them under a free license. // Liftarn

Image:00BK.JPG
No proof it's PD. Badly sourced. Liftarn 15:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:4stroke.jpg
No proof it's PD. Liftarn 15:29, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:4ptMotorStarter.gif
No proof it's PD. Could be ineligible. Liftarn 15:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC) GK tramrunner 22:23, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem if you delete it. Its taken from a textbook, which I gave up along with that field.

Image:4ptMotorStarter.JPG
No proof it's PD. Could be ineligible. Liftarn 15:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Its from a text book. Feel free to delete it GK tramrunner 22:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Wu_Jinglue.jpg
doesn't look like the uploader had this release from the original author of the photo.... a good fair use claim could be made because the subject is dead Calliopejen1 15:39, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:AEG IV.jpg
PD claimed, but it looks like NC and attribution. Liftarn 15:40, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:AR7IDF2.jpg
Should we take the uploaders word for it? Liftarn 15:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

http://www.answers.com/topic/ar7idf2-jpg

Take theirs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.106.98.2 (talk) 13:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Image:AR7IDF1.jpg
Should we take the uploaders word for it? Liftarn 15:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

http://www.answers.com/topic/ar7idf2-jpg "This image is copyrighted. However, the copyright holder has irrevocably released all rights to it, allowing it to be freely reproduced, distributed, transmitted, used, modified, built upon, or otherwise exploited in any way by anyone for any purpose, commercial or non-commercial, with or without attribution of the author, as if in the public domain."

Take theirs.

Image:Exploreriipistol.jpg
Source site says nothing about that. Liftarn 15:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Yuvraj Singh.jpg
Uploader claims to be the creator but has made false ownership claims in the past and this looks like a professional quality sports photo. &mdash;dgies tc 18:53, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Isps3.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

http://www.sfacets.com/SY/images/  S facets  00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Note that by viewing the above website, you will be revealing your IP to its owner, Sfacets. -- But | seriously | folks   22:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

is is obvious, all webmasters have the possibility to view editors' ip addresses. S facets 23:49, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Have uploaded a new version - original @ link specified above. S facets 21:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Note to closing admin: the next 18 files also concern the same uploader, and I suggest reviewing the whole set before acting on any. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 00:30, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Please also see http://www.sfacets.com/SY/images/ for originals/drafts. S facets 00:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Note that by viewing the above website, you will be revealing your IP to its owner, Sfacets. -- But | seriously | folks   22:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

This is obvious, all webmasters have the possibility to view editors' ip addresses. S facets 23:49, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Vishuddhisimple.png
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

http://www.sfacets.com/SY/images/  S facets  00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Dharamsala_map.gif
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

http://www.sfacets.com/SY/images/  S facets  00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Headchakras.gif
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

http://www.sfacets.com/SY/images/  S facets  00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Headchakras.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

http://www.sfacets.com/SY/images/  S facets  00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Subtlesys.gif
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:22, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

http://www.sfacets.com/SY/images/  S facets  00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I've found new evidence that this file was copied. Sfacets uploaded "Kundalini rising.gif" 31 October 2005. It was attributed to "Sahaja Yoga international www.sahajayoga.org" with no license or copyright info. Someone checked and found the website had a specific copyright policy forbiding use so it was deleted. The last three headings on the uploader's talk page discuss it.. Sfacets responded by discussing the copyright on that site, not by saying that he'd created the image. A Google search for "Kundalini rising.gif" brings up this page: which has an image that's indentical to "Subtlesys.gif". This chain of events makes it appear that, after having had the file deleted (three times: ), he simply changed the name, changed the attribution, and uploaded it again. In addition, this new file in question, image:Subtlesys.gif, has been deleted once as well, after I raised questions about it previously. So the image has been deleted at least four times by different admins for copyright concerns.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 08:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Also used here: . ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 22:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Another virtually identical image in the background here:, in an image dated 2004. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 22:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Also used in these websites:(According to Firefox, the webpage was last edited July 03, 2003 7:47:35 AM) (page last modified on December 10, 2002 11:07:43 PM)
 * These images linked abouve have a very specific style and manner of showing the topic. However there are many ways of illustrating the principle, as these other images show:
 * Therefore it appears that this image was created as early as December 2002. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 23:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

That isn't evidence - it is a sad attempt at continuing your effort to discredit my edits. That the images are being used on various websites says nothing. If you know anything about image editing, you would know how hard it is to remove a background colour from an image without affecting image quality - it is clear that the image you refer to above is a later version. If you look at the link I provided above, you will see the stages of its creation. I discussed the image in terms of the copyright on sahajayoga.org because I didn't want to divulge that I was the creator of the image at the time. This new version is a higher resolution image than the one previously posted. S facets 00:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * This is the first time you've said that you had created the earlier version that you claimed came from another source. However this isn't the first time you've changed your story when confronted with evidence, nor the first time that you've said your previous licenses were incorrect. Why would you be embarrassed about claiming authorship of this image when you signed your real name to photographs you uploaded? How do you explain that the linked versions are identical in every detail? The same colors, the same positions of the objects, etc? ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 03:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Did I say they weren't the same image? No. The websites are using the same image. The image created by me. I didn't change my story, the first image was taken from the website, that isn't to say it wasn't created by me. Looking at the provided images, you can see drafts leading up to the final version of the image. Your accusations are starting to appear more and more like personal attacks. S facets 03:59, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * So now you're saying that the image on  is yours, but you didn't mention that when you said they had different backgrounds. Another new story.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 04:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Stop your personal attacks - it is obvious you have no knowledge of image editing. Come back with some proof instead of your accusations. S facets 04:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You've admitted claiming that a files was yours and then saying that it wasn't, and in this case you claimed it wasn't yours now you claim it is yours. Pointing out that there's a history of mistaken licenses is not an attack, any more that reporting 3RR violations is an attack. It's just a necessary part of enforcing basic WP policies and making sure that there's integrity in the process. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 05:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

When did I claim it wasn't mine? As usual, you are putting a spin on my words. Pointing out that there is a history of mistaken licenses is not an attack, no, but persisting after I have stated that I am the creator of the image is. Stop discrediting me - you are insulting me by implying that I am a liar. Stop it. S facets 05:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * This is the problem. You previously stated that at least one photo was your own and, when questioned, insisted on multiple occasions over a long period of time that it was your own, then admitted later that you had been wrong.  So now if you insist that an image is yours, how are we supposed to know when you are correct and when you are mistaken?  As I've asked before, how can we ever trust you again?  How can we assume good faith in light of your prior error?  --  But | seriously | folks   05:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

You don't stop assuming good faith in someone because of mistakes - I take it therefore that you too are calling me a liar. S facets 06:50, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not saying that Sfacets is lying, just that he is not accurate when he makes assertions about the license of images. That is based on problems with numerous images over a period of time. If we need to review those again, I'd ask for clear explanations of the claim of creating image:Nirmala1.jpg and image:Womanconference1995.jpg, including what year those images were created. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 06:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I have already given an explanation for those images - here we are discussing this image. Have either of you looked at the link I provided? S facets 06:50, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No, you've never properly explained those images, taken 12 years ago in one case, and possibly decades ago in the other case. You have repeatedly asserted you took them, but that still appears highly unlikely given their age.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 05:15, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, but that doesn't prove anything either. -- But | seriously | folks   06:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I just want to make this crystal clear - unless you can provide evidence (listing links to websites using the image is not evidence) that the image was not created by me, then this image cannot be deleted. S facets 21:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * What is your basis for that statement? -- But | seriously | folks   22:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

My basis for that statement is reasonable doubt - you have provided no evidence that I didn't create the image, whereas I provided early sketches of it. S facets 00:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Your assertions that you have created images are inherently unreliable, since you have done so mistakenly in the past. Your possession of early sketches doesn't prove anything, because you might have borrowed them from others as well and subsequently forgotten. --  But | seriously | folks   16:18, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The image on Sfacets' website does not appear to be an early sketch. It appears to be a scanned, completed image. I'm left wondering about the good faith of a comment in the "read me" file on that site, which says "Thanks for your IP addresses". It gives the appearance that the webmaster is intending to collect the IP addresses of those who visit the site to check the evidence Sfacet is providing. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 21:05, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, a scan of a sketch. And yes, I collect ip addresses. I stick them together and hang them on my wall. Then I play darts with them. Will Beback has serious COI in regards to my edits and contributions to Wikipedia, in fact he has opposed almost every single edit that I have made on Sahaja Yoga-related articles. Good faith only goes so far and it is obvious to me that far from attempting to clarify the issue, he is attempting to find evidence to suit his POV, and subsequently harass me, attempting to discredit me as an editor and image creator.  S facets  22:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

http://sfacets.com/SY/images/big-s.jpeg  S facets  10:07, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Can we move forward now? Feel free to mark for deletion/delete images I haven't been able to provide source information for. S facets 20:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Your asserted sources are disputed. If you are dropping your claims then we can delete the files without further ado. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 03:48, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Did you not view the latest proof? Also see what other evidence do you need? S facets 05:16, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * What does the latest proof show? ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 05:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm providing evidence that the image was created by me - one is a large resolution image, the other a list of files used to create the image. What else do you need? I have demonstrated beyond a doubt that I created the image. All you have provided is websites displaying lower resolution images. Find me a website with the same or greater resolution image, please. S facets 06:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Why is this information being provided now, months after questions were first raised about this image? ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 06:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Because I like messing with you Because I just recently recovered them from an old HD. S facets 06:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I am now waiting for the nominating user to unlist my images (which are only supposed to be listed for 14 days) but apparently he has chosen this opportune time to take a Wikibreak. S facets 06:48, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I am not withdrawing these noms. They will eventually be closed out by an uninvolved admin.  (This and IFD are usually backlogged.)  I still think there's sufficient doubt that you created these images, so they should all be deleted. --  But | seriously | folks   09:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Well luckily we aren't going by your POV/COI opinions then. S facets 12:37, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Or yours. -- But | seriously | folks   18:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * wow.  S facets  20:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I have re-uploaded the image under a different licence. I have also provided evidence of it's creation by supplying the requested higher-resolution images and sketches as well as screenshots of it's creation. S facets 05:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:Chakras_hand.gif
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:22, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

http://www.sfacets.com/SY/images/  S facets  00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Narasim.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:23, 25 October 2007 (UTC) http://www.sfacets.com/SY/images/  S facets  00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Nbhkti.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC) http://www.sfacets.com/SY/images/  S facets  00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Ss22.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

This is a screenshot of a wiki tool, used to describe an issue with the developper. Are you seriously contesting that i do not know how to capture a display? S facets 00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I'm saying you don't have any copyright in this image to release, and there's an underlying copyright in the software displayed. -- But | seriously | folks   03:30, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

In that case just delete it, it was used as a prop on a bug submission for a program on Wikipedia. Doubt the developper needs it anymore, since the issue(s) has probably been fixed by now. S facets 06:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:MissTibet2005.jpg
Asserted permission needs to be confirmed.  But | seriously | folks   20:25, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

info@misstibet.com - Write to them and ask them... the original message from Lobsang Wangyal (the director and owner of the images) is as follows:

Dear xxxxxxxx, You may use any photos from the misstibet.com But please don't forget to credit them.

Regards,

Lobsang Wangyal Miss Tibet pageant Director S facets 00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't say anything about re-use, commercial use or derivs, so it's not sufficient. --  But | seriously | folks   03:30, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

My original request specified that it was for use on Wikipedia. S facets 06:55, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Ironically, and this is enough to make the sanest people break down in a shuddering heap, permission for use on Wikipedia is not sufficient to use an image on Wikipedia. You read that right.  For an image to be used on Wikipedia, the permission has to explicitly permit re-use for any purpose (even commercially) and modification (a/k/a derivatives).  This page explains that a bit and is really helpful for ensuring that the permission you get is not going to come up short.  --  But | seriously | folks   07:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow... ok - I don't think I am invested in keeping the image enough to request the copyright holder give up his rights to the image, nor would I wish him to do so.  S facets  08:08, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Kuchipudi_diwali.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Vishwango.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:27, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Can no longer locate the original photo - you will just have to assume good faith. (or just delete it - it is a bad photo anyway)  S facets  22:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Based on your erroneous claims about other photos (Image:Nirmala1.jpg, Image:PetrovskyAward.jpg, Image:Womanconference1995.jpg, and Image:Isps_gate.jpg), it doesn't make sense to assume you are correct in this instance. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 23:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I would appreciate it if you stopped with your attempts to discredit me. Do you just go aroud and copy+paste the above slander? S facets 21:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You discredited yourself with your admission that the position you once insisted on was erroneous. -- But | seriously | folks   22:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Not only is the image widely used, it's the only image of the ashram to be found on the web. See (from 2003). It's remarkable how many of the images that Sfacets has created have become so widely copied within the SY movement. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 05:11, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I allow my images to be used by the organization.  S facets  00:03, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:2horse.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

http://shane108.deviantart.com/  S facets  12:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Isps2.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:50, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Can no longer locate the original photo - you will just have to assume good faith. S facets


 * Based on your erroneous claims about other photos (Image:Nirmala1.jpg, Image:PetrovskyAward.jpg, Image:Womanconference1995.jpg, and Image:Isps_gate.jpg), it doesn't make sense to assume you are correct in this instance. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 23:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Isps1.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14.  But | seriously | folks   20:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Can no longer locate the original photo - you will just have to assume good faith. S facets 22:53, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Based on your erroneous claims about other photos (Image:Nirmala1.jpg, Image:PetrovskyAward.jpg, Image:Womanconference1995.jpg, and Image:Isps_gate.jpg), it doesn't make sense to assume you are correct in this instance. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 23:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Whatever - delete it if you want, I can easily find a replacement. S facets 21:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Nirmala1.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14. He also refuses to indicate what year or decade the photos was taken. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 00:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I thought that you had deleted this one ages ago, when you replaced it with a fair-use alternative. S facets 06:59, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Do you still insist you took the photo, or can we add this to the list of mistaken licenses? ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 09:51, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:PetrovskyAward.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14. He also refuses to confirm the year he took the photo. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 00:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Womanconference1995.jpg
Uploader has admitted to erroneously posting others' work tagged as his own. See Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_14. He also refuses to confirm the year he took the photo. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 00:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)