Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2008 February 16



Image:Adrienn_Bende,_Miss_Universe_Hungary_2006.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I4 by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Questionable GFDL-self claim while the image is watermarked with a web address. Jusjih (talk) 01:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Kyoko_John.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Need evidence that IMG Canada has released it under GFDL. Jusjih (talk) 01:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:EonMckai.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

The source site does not release to PD, so OTRS confirmation is needed. Jusjih (talk) 02:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Mo.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

OR image that I doubt is public domain. Looks like a screenshot. Ricky81682 (talk) 02:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Derek_lundahl_2006.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Uploader blanked licenses unexplained. Jusjih (talk) 02:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Waqar_Ahmed_Abbasi.JPG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Uploader blanked the page unexplained. Jusjih (talk) 02:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Falcon_Motorcycle.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Uploader made varied licensing but now asks for deletion. Need comments. Jusjih (talk) 02:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Love2.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I5 by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Appars to be an album cover, definitely not PD-self. —  pd_THOR  undefined | 06:08, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Al_Walser.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Image watermarked from MySpace. Uploader is probably not the copyright holder as claimed. Nv8200p talk 11:42, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:AlexSmith(lacrosse).jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

No evidence uploader was granted permission to release the image under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 11:52, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:EAF Ranks.jpg‎ and Image:Orbmilitaryranking0jjnavy.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Deleted- F ASTILY  (TALK) 23:02, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Same as Possibly_unfree_images/2008_February_11 above. These are claimed as free just because the author redrew original, creative works from a non-free cartoon show. I would say they still contain the non-free material copyrighted by the creators. Dmcdevit·t 12:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I created these. If the creators of the show have a problem with this, which I have not heard, then I will gladly remove them myself. I have not nor will I ever make money from this; they were created for informational purposes. Neovu79 (talk) 03:18, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It doesn't have to do with you making money. It has to do with the fact that these designs are original works of another person (or corporation) and copyrighted by them, even if you redraw them yourself. As such, they should not be licensed under the GFDL by you, as if you own the copyright. Dmcdevit·t 03:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a completely sound arguement to me; too much of a grey area. What you're saying can apply to thousands of images and screen caps posted on Wiki. Fix those and I'll be more willing to agree with you're sentiment. Neovu79 (talk) 03:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Changed licensing for both images to  and added rational. Neovu79 (talk) 04:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If I have to fix thousands of images before I'm allowed to dispute one, then how am I ever going to start with the thousands? ;-) Fair use is fine with a rationale. The point of this process is that it was mistagged as GFDL ("Possibly unfree images") not necessarily that it needs to be deleted. Dmcdevit·t 04:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Harb&istiklalmedal.JPG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I4 by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

dubious copyright claim. User has uploaded a lot of images whith unclear copyright status. Rettetast (talk) 14:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

This is a arbitrary and misleading concern with no basis. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leblebi (talk • contribs)
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Image:WithACadet.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Deleted- F ASTILY  (TALK) 23:03, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

The result of the discussion was: delete. The pedigree of these two images is suspect and unverifiable. The images are just used in a gallery and is not significant to the article. -Nv8200p talk 11:25, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Image is marked "From his family album and personal collection" and released into public domain and GFDL(?). There is no evidence of such a release. Rettetast (talk) 14:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

What example evidence is being sought? Any guidance? The following was properly posted all along. From his family album and personal collection PD-self -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leblebi (talk • contribs)


 * Well, that's now. The original version was listing it as public domain, because it was "a work of an employee of the Turkish Government, taken or made during the course of the persons' (both the subject and the photographer) official government duties."  I find it quite strange that you removed that argument.  It is a little unusual to remove the source that someone else lists and then claim the image is public domain.  -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:46, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:ArmyGames.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

See above Rettetast (talk) 14:11, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * same as above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leblebi (talk • contribs) 02:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:All_6_beach_boys.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

No evidence uploader received permission to release the image under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 15:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Banker.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

No evidence that uploader holds the copyright. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 16:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC) What tag should I use? Grounded into a double play (talk) 21:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The question starts with, "where did you get it?" It doesn't look like you shot the image, so where did it come from?  -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:46, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Alondrawebfashion.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Looks like a pro photoshoot. I doubt the uploader is the copyright holder as claimed. Nv8200p talk 16:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Alone13-11.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

From a video game. Doubtful the uploader is the copyright holder as claimed. Nv8200p talk 16:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:AlphaSunTanningBooth.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I8 by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Looks like a promo shot. No evidence that uploader is the copyright holder as claimed. Nv8200p talk 16:52, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a promo shot. I am the Director of Marketing for UVA SunSystems, Inc., the company that is the North American importer for Alpha Industries products, and as such, have the authority to license our photos, including the other tanning related photos that I have uploaded, and in most circumstances, actually photographed. Other examples include tanning lamp, tanning lotion, tanning lamp starter as well as non-tanning photos such as Abbotts Creek (actually my wife's photo) and a local winery product The Alpha Industries tanning booth image is properly licensed with proper permissions. P HARMBOY  ( TALK ) 14:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If you call the phone number on the website credited in the photo and enter extension 126, you can speak to me directly (my real name is on my Wikipedia page, by the way...) Seems like the nominator could have found this information quite easily without the extra hassle, and could have raised the issue on my talk page first. P HARMBOY ( TALK ) 22:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination withdrawn. -Nv8200p talk 11:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Alpina_Sherpa_.JPG
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:08, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Promo shot. no evidence that uploader was granted permission to use the image under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 16:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC) The manufacturer owned and provided this image for this article. I have an e-mail from them confirming permission to place the image into the public domain with no restrictions. --Hjroberts (talk) 20:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination withdrawn. -Nv8200p talk 12:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Alpine_SubwooferTypeR.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Promo shot. No evidence uploader was granted permission to use the image under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 16:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

As you stated, its a promo shot, thus it was created to be reproduced. I think its a safe assumption to that the copyright owner would approve of its use here. Clown666 (talk) 19:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The question is not whether the copyright holder would approve of its use on Wikipedia but whether the copyright holder has released it under a free license, such as the GFDL, which allows anyone to use it for any purpose. Unless evidence is presented that the copyright holder really has released it under such a free license, we cannot accept the image as free, and the image would be usable only if it met all of the non-free content criteria. But this image is easily replaceable (anyone can take a photo of these speakers and release the photo under a free license), so this image would fail the first criterion. Hence this image cannot be used on Wikipedia unless it can be conclusively established that the copyright holder has indeed freely licensed the image. —Bkell (talk) 19:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * A promotional issue can be used and this is clearly a promotional image. Should stay. --MiamiManny (talk) 17:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * If the image is not released under a free license, then it can only be used if it satisfies all the terms of the non-free content criteria. One of those criteria is that the image cannot be replaced with a free image. In this case the image could most certainly be replaced with a free image, so it fails the non-free content criteria and cannot be used here. "Promotional" is not an automatic OK for images on Wikipedia. —Bkell (talk) 20:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * If Bkell has another free image, he should substitute it. Otherwise, the promo photo is good to go. I find it amazing that a number of wiki editors think they are serving the community well by looking for reasons NOT to include photos.  I wish those editors would instead focus their energies on trying to keep photos within wiki. --MiamiManny (talk) 21:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but that's not how the non-free content criteria work. The criterion is that the image cannot potentially be replaced by a free image. The purpose of Wikipedia is to be an encyclopedia of free content that anyone can use for any purpose. Non-free images like this one are contradictory to that goal, so we only accept them when absolutely necessary. The reason that the first criterion specifies that no free image could potentially be created is to encourage the creation of free content. If someone comes along and finds that the article Alpine Type-R has no image, he or she is much more likely to be motivated to create a free photograph than if the article had already had a non-free image. The end result is better in the case that non-free images like this are deleted. —Bkell (talk) 02:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Amanda_Pere2z.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

No evidence permission was granted to uploader to use image under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 17:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Jgs2.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep; for now- F ASTILY  (TALK) 23:05, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Doubtful that uploader is the copyright holder as claimed. Nv8200p talk 17:52, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I am the owner of this image and own copyright to the images from Wifredo Lam, Amelia Pelaez and Jose Gomez-Sicre. You can contact me if you have any questions regarding this matter. thanks. mfoto@aol.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfoto (talk • contribs) 01:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:AmeliaJGS003.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Doubtful that uploader is the copyright holder as claimed. Nv8200p talk 17:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I am the owner of this image and own copyright to the images from Wifredo Lam, Amelia Pelaez and Jose Gomez-Sicre. You can contact me if you have any questions regarding this matter. mfoto@aol.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfoto (talk • contribs) 01:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Lam.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Doubtful that uploader is the copyright holder as claimed. Nv8200p talk 17:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I am the owner of this image and own copyright to the images from Wifredo Lam, Amelia Pelaez and Jose Gomez-Sicre. You can contact me if you have any questions regarding this matter. mfoto@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfoto (talk • contribs) 01:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I am withdrawing my nomination of these three images. It appears the uploader is the copyright holder. -Nv8200p talk 03:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


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Image:America_Oggi.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Derivative of a copyrighted work. Nv8200p talk 17:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Hashim Thaci.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

http://www.nato.int/issues/media_library/index.html: material is available to recognised members of the press and media and for educational purposes. Please note that we require a credit mention should you make use of our images. — Saibo ( Δ ) 17:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This is not a free license (only for informational purposes, etc.) and definitely not CC-BY-SA. Superm401 - Talk 03:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:American_taliban2.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Derivative with no evidence of permission given to release under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 18:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Ormen Lange Nyhamna.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep; for now- F ASTILY  (TALK) 23:06, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Tagged. The copyright information given is "© Norsk Hydro ASA 2002. All rights reserved. The images contained in this image bank are copyright Norsk Hydro ASA and remain the property of Norsk Hydro, even when reproduced by third parties. The images contained in the image bank are approved for royalty-free reproduction in all media by any person or organisation. Use of photos must be credited with with text © Norsk Hydro placed in the immediate vicinity of the image. Images shall be reproduced to a good technical standard. Norsk Hydro ASA reserves the right to request removal or cease of use of an inappropriate image or application of an image." Thus it seems that the permission given does not include permission to reproduce the image poorly and likely does not include permission to modify the image or create derivative works. Also there really hasn't been permission to use the image freely, since Norsk Hydro ASA "reserves the right to request removal or cease of use" if the image is used "inappropriately". —Bkell (talk) 18:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Since uploading the photo, the owners have updated the copyright statement : "Users are permitted to copy material from ormenlange.com, for use on other websites, or in any other medium, print, electronic or otherwise, without the prior written permission of Norsk Hydro. An acknowledgement of the source must however be included whenever Norsk Hydro copyright material is copied or published."

This is much more leniant and must allow the image to be used on Wiki??? --TFoxton (talk) 22:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Has permission been given for anyone to use the image for any purpose, commercial or non-commercial? Has permission been given for anyone to modify the image in any way and to create derivative works? If so, then it's considered free here. If not, then it's not free. (By the way, this is Wikipedia, not "Wiki". A wiki is a general term for a website that allows users to change the text of pages. Wikipedia is a wiki, but there are many other wikis.) —Bkell (talk) 06:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

If permission hasn't yet been given, I feel that we should try to obtain that permission. The picture is, as everyone can see, of very good quality and a real added value to the article. I also think it shouldn't be a real problem to keep using the picture until/unless removal is asked for by the rightful owner of the copyright. Rockerswb 81.164.15.216 (talk) 21:07, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


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Image:Easington Langeled Terminal.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Tagged. The copyright information given is "© Norsk Hydro ASA 2002. All rights reserved. The images contained in this image bank are copyright Norsk Hydro ASA and remain the property of Norsk Hydro, even when reproduced by third parties. The images contained in the image bank are approved for royalty-free reproduction in all media by any person or organisation. Use of photos must be credited with with text © Norsk Hydro placed in the immediate vicinity of the image. Images shall be reproduced to a good technical standard. Norsk Hydro ASA reserves the right to request removal or cease of use of an inappropriate image or application of an image." Thus it seems that the permission given does not include permission to reproduce the image poorly and likely does not include permission to modify the image or create derivative works. Also there really hasn't been permission to use the image freely, since Norsk Hydro ASA "reserves the right to request removal or cease of use" if the image is used "inappropriately". —Bkell (talk) 18:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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This is much more leniant and must allow the image to be used on Wiki??? --TFoxton (talk) 22:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Kart rorledning lite.gif
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Tagged. The copyright information given is "© Norsk Hydro ASA 2002. All rights reserved. The images contained in this image bank are copyright Norsk Hydro ASA and remain the property of Norsk Hydro, even when reproduced by third parties. The images contained in the image bank are approved for royalty-free reproduction in all media by any person or organisation. Use of photos must be credited with with text © Norsk Hydro placed in the immediate vicinity of the image. Images shall be reproduced to a good technical standard. Norsk Hydro ASA reserves the right to request removal or cease of use of an inappropriate image or application of an image." Thus it seems that the permission given does not include permission to reproduce the image poorly and likely does not include permission to modify the image or create derivative works. Also there really hasn't been permission to use the image freely, since Norsk Hydro ASA "reserves the right to request removal or cease of use" if the image is used "inappropriately". —Bkell (talk) 18:37, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Since uploading the photo, the owners have updated the copyright statement : "Users are permitted to copy material from ormenlange.com, for use on other websites, or in any other medium, print, electronic or otherwise, without the prior written permission of Norsk Hydro. An acknowledgement of the source must however be included whenever Norsk Hydro copyright material is copied or published."

This is much more leniant and must allow the image to be used on Wiki??? --TFoxton (talk) 22:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


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Image:Victoria square hull yorksbank maritime museum.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Tagged, but the Flickr source page indicates that the image is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license. Noncommercial-only images are not allowed on Wikipedia. —Bkell (talk) 18:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed it is listed as non-commercial use and therefore breaks Wiki rules. So delete and apologies. Shame though. The copyright holder has said (on the Flickr page) that they are fine with its use here. --TFoxton (talk) 21:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * If the copyright holder is willing to change the license and allow commercial uses of the image, then we can keep the image. Perhaps you can ask? —Bkell (talk) 18:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Aniket_vishwasrao_2004.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Looks like a screenshot. No evidence that uploader is the copyright holder as claimed. Nv8200p talk 20:24, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

How does Nv8200p know that? ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psg116 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Anne-meet-the-press.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as G4 by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Derivative work Nv8200p talk 20:37, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Annehaddyhmartin.png
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I9 by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Screenshot. I doubt the upoader is the copyright holder as claimed Nv8200p talk 20:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:AnneliesTangheEPTour3.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

No evidence permission has been granted to use the image under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 20:52, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Normal capt.olysoc70808152018.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

No evidence that the source site releases images under GFDL. Looks like a news image anyway. Mosmof (talk) 21:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Mahdi.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

No evidence of permission, needs OTRS ticket. Mosmof (talk) 21:06, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Edna?.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

looks professional no evidence that uploader is John Burgos Genisock2 (talk) 21:42, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

No evidence permission was granted to use image under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 21:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

No evidence permission was granted to use the image under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 22:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

There is no evidence that source site granted permission to use the image under the GFDL as claimed. Nv8200p talk 22:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

No evidence permission was granted to use the image under the GFDL. Nv8200p talk 23:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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