Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2008 June 22

Image:NCC-1701-A.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

--EEMIV (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:USS Enterprise.JPG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

--EEMIV (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Steamrunner.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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Image:Sixships2.JPG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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Image:Sixships.JPG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

--EEMIV (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Saber.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: kept with license updated Skier Dude  ( talk ) 01:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC) --EEMIV (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:NCC-1701.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

--EEMIV (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:NCC-1701-D.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

--EEMIV (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:NCC-1701-C.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

--EEMIV (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:NCC-1701-B.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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Image:Akira.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

--EEMIV (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:20020321-googleback.gif

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

this is not a free use image - it has both the IE explorer bar (unnecessary) and the google webpage. The Evil Spartan (talk) 02:56, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ - As image's original uploader I have no problem with this - I saw that someone else had oddly removed this deletion discussion notice from the image's page - but in any event no worries because I tagged it with db-author (not as the author but original uploader). Cirt (talk) 18:52, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Ana-dolidze.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I do not see evidence this is a free use image; the explanation of the license is only one sentence long and written in broken English, and the link to the image is gone. The Evil Spartan (talk) 02:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * "Using materials of the site the reference on "Georgia Today" with the indication of the author is obligatory", hmm - sounds like the kind of wisdom I'd expect from a Japanese citizen. Attribution? But, without declarations of the other freedoms, its non-free. ViperSnake151 12:10, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:06 High.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

And Image:03 Low.jpg. Uploader is not the photographer credited in image summaries, and is unlikely to be the copyright holder. Mistagged PD and cc-by respectively. Images appear here, where copyright is claimed by QMU. — — mholland (talk) 03:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Rose Revolution in Georgia.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I3 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I do not see evidence this is in the public domain. The Evil Spartan (talk) 03:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I added the disclaimer notice from the source of this image. --KoberTalk 04:18, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Khevsureti mountains, Georgia.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

no evidence this is public domain. The Evil Spartan (talk) 03:11, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I uploaded the photo and obtained a permission from its author. However, it is now replaceable with several similar Commons images of better quality. We can delete it, I guess.--KoberTalk 04:26, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Ani lorak.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Use in "electronic media" not free enough for GFDL - and I do not see evidence of this (then again, my flashplayer doesn't like the links) The Evil Spartan (talk) 03:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I3 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

"These photos are available for promotional web use only." This does not seem to comply with GFDL. The Evil Spartan (talk) 03:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:ArmenianFighters1989.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I see no evidence of copyright free use; tagged for deletion there too. The Evil Spartan (talk) 03:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: kept with license updated Skier Dude  ( talk ) 01:58, 26 February 2012 (UTC) I doubt this is free usage. The Evil Spartan (talk) 03:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅Speedy-close: This is a book cover.  The odds of it being free are infintesimal.  If it turns out to be free we can always re-upload a high-resolution image without much difficulty.  Someone else already updated most of the image tags, I will update the rest.  I have replace the image with the same-sized thumbnail that was fair-used in the article about the book.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  20:43, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


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Image:Mike_parry-1-.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

The background of the image looks like it could be a set of a television programme, thus the image would be a copyrighted screen cap. Seraphim&hearts; Whipp  11:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Raghu rannvijay at kl.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I4 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Looks to be a copy vio. No licensing information. Please note that user has previously uploaded one blatant copy vio picture. — Amog  | Talk •  contribs 13:43, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Looks to be a copy vio. No licensing information. Please note that user has previously uploaded one blatant copy vio picture. — Amog  | Talk •  contribs 13:43, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:BrisbaneLionsDesign.png
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I5 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I doubt that a sport team's logo is public domain. Jesse Viviano (talk) 15:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Police Officer 3.gif
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The result of the discussion was: Keep; for now- F ASTILY  (TALK) 03:35, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Image:Los Angeles Police Department Chief Of Police.gif
It's possible this group of images is ineligible for copyright, but certainly an LAPD rank insignia is not a work of the US Federal Government, contrary to the licence. Not used in any pages so no fair use claim available. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 16:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * There are two special license tags for insignia, "non-free symbol" and "insignia", which can be used for these images (especially the second one) and keep them within WP, if there is no copyright violation.
 * Sv1xv (talk) 09:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * After checking the images, I've marked the set as pd-ineligible - stars, rectangles, chevrons all in a flat color - doesn't seem to rise to the level necessary for copyright. Shell    babelfish 09:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Diyana1978.JPG
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Claim of GFDL-self contradicts statement that image is owned by Benjamin Yousif of Chicago. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Harir.JPG
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Unused image. Uploader admits is not the owner and states that "if you would like to use this image please notify me" which suggests GFDL licence incorrect. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Mar Yousin in Harir.JPG
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Uploader states that somebody else is the owner of this image. Judging from uploader's other files, concept of GFDL licence is not understood. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Uploader states that somebody else is the owner of this image. Judging from uploader's other files, concept of GFDL licence is not understood. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Uploader states that somebody else is the owner of this image. Judging from uploader's other files, concept of GFDL licence is not understood. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Uploader states that somebody else is the owner of this image. Judging from uploader's other files, concept of GFDL licence is not understood. Claim of GFDL-self is certainly incorrect. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Uploader states that somebody else is the owner of this image. Judging from uploader's other files, concept of GFDL licence is not understood. Claim of GFDL-self is certainly incorrect. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:New Harir Nawchiya.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Uploader states that somebody else is the owner of this image. Judging from uploader's other files, concept of GFDL licence is not understood. Claim of GFDL-self is certainly incorrect. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Shamizdin, Nochiya.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Uploader states that somebody else is the owner of this image. Judging from uploader's other files, concept of GFDL licence is not understood. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Apparently six people own the copyright for this image and there is no copyright but the licence is GFDL. The image's actual copyright status is unclear. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:18, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:UGA-University-of-Georgia-1785-seal-variant.gif
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

"Variant image similar to seal of University of Georgia, but with thicker outer circle, higher bottom curve on "5" and taller columns." This is essentially a near-copy of the University of Georgia seal which is presumably copyright and would require fair use. Although the image itself is user-created I don't think that a PD-self licence is appropriate. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:34, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Source site does not say the image is GFDL. I have contacted the uploader, but to no avail. J Milburn (talk) 20:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Source website does not appear to say images are public domain, and in fact says that content is copyrighted, all rights reserved. I have contacted the uploader, but they have not responded. J Milburn (talk) 20:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Comment I contacted source website owner, who told me this photo can be used in Wikipedia exclusively. If this is not enough, image can be deleted, and I can add an original one without a copyright notice.Ironguardian (talk) 21:52, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Source website does not appear to say images are public domain, and in fact says that content is copyrighted, all rights reserved. I have contacted the uploader, but they have not responded. J Milburn (talk) 20:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Comment I contacted source website owner, who told me this photo can be used in Wikipedia exclusively. If this is not enough, image can be deleted, and I can add an original one without a copyright notice.Ironguardian (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Source website does not appear to say images are public domain, and in fact says that content is copyrighted, all rights reserved. I have contacted the uploader, but they have not responded. J Milburn (talk) 20:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Comment I contacted source website owner, who told me this photo can be used in Wikipedia exclusively. If this is not enough, image can be deleted, and I can add an original one without a copyright notice.Ironguardian (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Source website does not appear to say images are public domain, and in fact says that content is copyrighted, all rights reserved. I have contacted the uploader, but they have not responded. J Milburn (talk) 20:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Comment I contacted source website owner, who told me this photo can be used in Wikipedia exclusively. If this is not enough, image can be deleted, and I can add an original one without a copyright notice.Ironguardian (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Image:T-Mobile Team Time Trial.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Un-needed non-free image. Apparently the only reason we have this image is because it is impossible to replace with a track side image due to "artistic concerns". I disagree. It is neither fair use under law, or under policy due to its non-essentialness in the article it is used in, and it's replaceability by a free image of either the team in question or a general photograph of people on racing bikes. Megapixie (talk) 21:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This is a case where we need to think seriously about the question of information that is conveyed via an image that could not be conveyed otherwise. It's not a matter, as Megapixie puts it, of "artistic concerns," a term that is not used at all in the fair use justification. Rather, it is this - the team time trial in the 2004 Tour de France was a wet, turgid, tense affair, with several very good teams competing for victory in it. It was a rain-soaked, slippery race, full of crashes. All of these are statable facts. However, this picture conveys something via photography that cannot be conveyed via simple verbal description. I encourage you to look at it - look at the soaked riders, the grimy haze of rain being thrown back by the bikes, the water dripping off of them, and the expression on Jan Ulrich's face. All of this communicates information about a decisive turning point in a historic bike race (this was the race where Armstrong won his record-setting 6th Tour) that could not possibly be conveyed any other way. There is a viscerality to images that is irreproducible without them. This photograph truly is worth a thousand words about the race. And for that reason, it passes the basic fair use criteria.


 * The rest is clear-cut - no free image could possibly exist, because the still frame photograph of this style requires a head-on view of the riders - something that is only possible for official race vehicles, i.e. not the general public. You can compare it to Image:Lance-Armstrong-TdF2004.jpg for a sense of the difference - that's an excellent spectator photograph of Armstrong, but even it has blurring and loss of clarity that would lose the tiny details like the water streaming off of Ulrich's face that make the T-Mobile picture so useful. There's simply no way for a common photographer to get this shot, and that makes it irreplaceable in that regard.


 * Given that no free alternative can possibly exist, and that it provides a clear sense of the race conditions and general feel of a turning point day in a historic bike race, I think it is clear that this is the sort of image that is protected under our fair use criteria. It significantly increases understanding of what the 2004 Tour de France was like - in a way that cannot be conveyed effectively through non-visual media. Accordingly, it should be kept. It is a historically important image of an iconic race. Phil Sandifer (talk) 22:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Or you could just use a free image from commons or perhaps find another cc-by image from flickr. We don't need this photo there are plenty of other free images of the same event. Megapixie (talk) 22:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * A free image of this particular historic race that captures the visceral feeling of it in such high detail? I am skeptical, given the difficulties I already mentioned regarding motion blur - unless you have the fixed angle of a leading car that can match speed and keep the riders comparatively still relative to the camera, you just can't get a shot like this. Phil Sandifer (talk) 23:10, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * So it's not that the information can't be conveyed by the other images - it's just that you don't like the available free replacement images ? Megapixie (talk) 23:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The information, in this case, is a sense of the conditions, tone, mood, and feel of this particular stage of the 2004 Tour de France. The details in this image, as discussed above, are possible only because of the particular vantage point the photo was taken from - a vantage point unavailable to providers of free images. It's not a matter of liking or disliking - it's a matter of "this image contains visual details that provide information about the race that cannot be readily expressed verbally, and that would not be visible in free images." Phil Sandifer (talk) 23:28, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree that this image is very compelling and it is very difficult for a non-professional to capture the same level of detail, but I don't agree that the image is completely irreplaceable nor do I believe that a picture being worth a thousand words is a compelling reason for fair-use. While not as crisp or framed as well, a similar message can be conveyed from an image such as Image:Rabobank_team_2004_TDF.jpg or there's always the old standby of well written text.  I could be completely misunderstanding Wikipedia's fair-use policies though, so feel free to undelete if I'm off base.  Shell    babelfish 09:18, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Reading the fair use rationale for this image made one thing apparent to me: a free image could reasonably be created. A freely licensed replacement has been provided anyhow. Matthew (talk) 14:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Nochiya Coat of Arms.PNG
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Uploader has claimed GFDL-self, but noted that someone else created the image Kevin (talk) 22:58, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The license must be modified to and a fair use rationale added.
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