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File:The Arcane Space Tilset Release Cover.jpg

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 * File:The Arcane Space Tilset Release Cover.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Promotional image of some sort. Likely copyrighted.  No reason given to suggest that uploader is copyright holder.  F ASTILYsock (T ALK ) 05:32, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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File:Wikiprfc.jpg

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 * File:Wikiprfc.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Promotional image of some sort. Likely copyrighted.  No reason given to suggest that uploader is copyright holder.  F ASTILYsock (T ALK ) 05:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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File:Mock official.jpg

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 * File:Mock official.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Promotional photo of a notable individual. Likely copyrighted.  No reason given to suggest that uploader is copyright holder.  F ASTILYsock (T ALK ) 05:35, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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File:Curro.jpg

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 * File:Curro.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Promotional image/logo of some sort. Likely copyrighted.  No reason given to suggest that uploader is copyright holder.  F ASTILYsock (T ALK ) 05:36, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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File:Main and Gervais during construction.jpg

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 * File:Main and Gervais during construction.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Image has an incompatible license on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30101980@N06/3696601290/ Mosmof (talk) 06:04, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. CC-BY-NC-ND. — I-20 the highway  18:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
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File:Sumter South Carolina.jpg

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 * File:Sumter South Carolina.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Image appears to be from http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b153/d3e31/, which predates the upload. Mosmof (talk) 06:07, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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File:Rock Hill South Carolina.jpg

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 * File:Rock Hill South Carolina.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Image from http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc38447.php, no evidence that uploader is the copyright holder. Mosmof (talk) 06:12, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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File:Mount Pleasant South Carolina.jpg

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 * File:Mount Pleasant South Carolina.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Original image found here: http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc43233.php Mosmof (talk) 06:16, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Obviouse case, all images by this uploaders are unfree. --Martin H. (talk) 07:44, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
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File:Twitter_June_23_2010_Trending_Topics.jpg

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 * File:Twitter June 23 2010 Trending Topics.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * twitter is copyright Twitter, Inc. and therefore we should not take screen-grabs of their website without rationale Streetjo (talk) 06:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see any graphics in the image that could be copyrighted, and I don't think a software system's summation (which this presumably is) of the recent entries counts as creative, so I'm not sure that this one can be copyrighted at all. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:04, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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File:World_Cup_Trending_Topics_England_Football_Team.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)


 * File:World Cup Trending Topics England Football Team.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * twitter is copyright Twitter, Inc. and therefore we should not take screen-grabs of their website without rationale Streetjo (talk) 06:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see any graphics in the image that could be copyrighted, and I don't think a software system's summation (which this presumably is) of the recent entries counts as creative, so I'm not sure that this one can be copyrighted at all. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:03, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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File:Snake.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Snake.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This version by user:SkeletalStrong doesn't have a license and information IngerAlHaosului (talk) 09:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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File:Church Nuestra Senora de la Concepcion y San Fernando of Toa Alta.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Keep and Delete; the files marked with have been kept and those with  (and below) have been deleted. - F ASTILY  (T ALK ) 03:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora de la Concepcion y San Fernando of Toa Alta.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Per User:Doncram, "The photo, despite being available at a NPS website, is privately owned and not taken by a Federal employee / not PD." I am fixing a faulty listing of it as a copyvio and have not examined it for myself yet. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, that is not a free file. In the same status are:
 * File:Church of San Isidro Labrador and Santa Maria de la Cabeza of Sabana Grande.JPG‎
 * File:Church of San Fernando of Carolina.JPG
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora del Rosario of Naguabo.JPG
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora del Carmen of Hatillo.JPG
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora de la Concepcion y San Fernando of Toa Alta.JPG
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora de la Candelaria y San Matias of Manati.JPG
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion of Cayey.JPG
 * File:Church Inmaculada Conception of Vega Alta.JPG
 * File:Church Dulce Nombre de Jesus of Humacao.JPG
 * File:Casa del Rey.JPG
 * These should be deleted. And there are various other same-status photos that appear among other valid photos within the Puerto Rico list-articles indexed from List of RHPs in PR, which should also be identified and deleted.  The main discussion for this is at User talk:Quazgaa, including links to the National Park Service copyright notice that clarifies photos at its website are not public domain). --doncram (talk) 14:45, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for commenting. I had completely forgotten about this group of images. Unless/until Tony gets permission which can be forwarded to OTRS, I'm inclined to agree with you that all of these images need to be assumed non-free. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:52, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Also File:Acevedo, Rafael, House.JPG, which is in same status although was presented in the disucssion at Quazgaa's Talk page as being public domain. --doncram (talk) 14:59, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * There were 52 photos uploaded by Quazgaa in the same timeframe, from April 30 to June 9, all of which are subject to the same issue, which i find by reviewing the NRHP list-articles. These are:
 * 4 added to the National Register of Historic Places listings in western Puerto Rico
 * File:Casa de los Ponce de Leon.JPG
 * This one is by Aurelio Tio, of Academia Puertorriqueno de la Historia (affiliation given in Sec. 11 of ) and status has not been shown to be PD. --doncram (talk) 22:04, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * File:Cementerio Municipal de Mayaguez.JPG
 * This one is by Jorge Rigau, affiliation which i do not see provided, last photo in photo set accompanying National Register of Historic Places Registration: Cementerio Municipal de Mayagüez / Cementerio Viejo, date=March, 1988, author=Marta Cruz Casse, with State Historic Preservation Office, photo from . --doncram (talk) 02:30, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * File:Asilo De Pobres.jpg
 * Photo by Jorge Rigau (as above)
 * File:Cardona Residence.JPG
 * Photo by Hector Acevedo, affiliation unclear
 * 9 added to the National Register of Historic Places listings in southern Puerto Rico
 * File:Chalet Amill.JPG
 * The Chalet Amill in Yauco, Puerto Rico is a Beaux Arts style house that was built in 1914. Its  is written by Armando Morales-Pares (of SHPO) and Jerry Torres Santiago (of Corporacion para la Educacion Cultural de Yauco), and its  are all by Jerry Torres Santiago.  So appears either J.T.Santiago or CECY could own copyright. --doncram (talk) 17:47, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * File:Central Aguirre Historic District.JPG
 * File:Casa Blanca.JPG
 * File:Cayey Bridge.JPG
 * File:Casino de Ponce.JPG
 * File:Cementerio Catolico San Vicente de Paul.JPG
 * File:Casa Agostini.JPG
 * File:Casa Franceschi Antongiorgi.JPG
 * File:Casona Cesari.JPG
 * 14 added to the National Register of Historic Places listings in northern Puerto Rico
 * File:Calle Gonzalo Marin No. 61.jpg
 * File:Cambalache Bridge.jpg
 * File:Casa Alcaldia de Arecibo.JPG
 * File:Casa Cordova.JPG
 * File:Casa Ulanga.JPG
 * File:Casa de la Diosa Mita.JPG
 * File:Antiguo Casino Camuyano.jpg
 * File:Casa del Rey.JPG
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora del Carmen of Hatillo.JPG
 * File:Brunet--Calaf Residence.jpg
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora de la Candelaria y San Matias of Manati.JPG
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora de la Concepcion y San Fernando of Toa Alta.JPG
 * File:Church Inmaculada Conception of Vega Alta.JPG
 * File:Casa Alonso.JPG
 * 9 added to the National Register of Historic Places listings in eastern Puerto Rico
 * File:Casa Roig.JPG
 * File:Church Dulce Nombre de Jesus of Humacao.JPG
 * File:Bridge No. 122.jpg
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora del Rosario of Naguabo.JPG
 * File:Acevedo, Rafael, House.JPG
 * File:Casa Alcaldia de Vieques.JPG
 * File:Casa Augusto Delerme.JPG
 * File:Casa Delerme--Anduze No. 2.JPG
 * File:Casa de Jaime Puig Lemoine.JPG
 * 7 added to the National Register of Historic Places listings in central Puerto Rico
 * File:Casa Natal de Luis Munoz Rivera.JPG
 * File:Aguayo Aldea Vocational High School.JPG
 * File:Alcaldia de Caguas.JPG
 * File:Benitez, Gautier, High School.jpg
 * File:Arenas Bridge.jpg
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion of Cayey.JPG
 * File:Blanco Bridge.jpg
 * 9 added to the National Register of Historic Places listings in metropolitan San Juan, Puerto Rico
 * File:Casa Natal Dr. Jose Celso Barbosa.JPG
 * File:Church of San Fernando of Carolina.JPG
 * File:Biblioteca Carnegie.jpg
 * File:Puerto Rico Island Penitentiary.JPG
 * File:Antiguo Casino de Puerto Rico.JPG
 * File:Carcel de Puerta de Tierra.JPG
 * File:Casa Klumb.JPG
 * File:Puerto Rico Ilustrado-Edificio El Mundo.JPG
 * File:Central High School.JPG
 * I think that is all of them. I do feel bad that Quazgaa spent as much time in the well-meant effort, but i did actually notify Q of the problem fully as soon as i detected it. --doncram (talk) 15:39, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Acevedo, Rafael, House.JPG Thanks for moving the discussion over here VernoWhitney. I also appreciate letting me know as well.  I will also reply to this discussion here to Doncram versus my talk page.  So I hope I am not repeating, just claryfing myself to Doncram, the Image on the left (Acevedo, Rafael, House.JPG) was taken by an employee of the institute of Puerto Rican culture(IPRC)...of which an OTRS verified PD license already exists.  What I provided you as the link "" was the Proof that the photographer was an employee of IPRC as listed on page 5 of the PDF so I don't understand the insistance that it is not PD.
 * There may be other Images that fall under this category and I am currently updating the licensing status which I mentioned to Doncram on my talk page. Also mentioned was the request that deletion of these images be delayed until potential PD license is requested by PRSHPO.  Currently there is a Wiki Editor (Tony) investigating PD status and pending his findings, I have ceased uploading further images of this type. Also, I find it a little disheartening that this request was not mentioned here since Doncram was my first contact.  Seems like there is trigger finger for deletion of these images is all. Quazgaa (talk) 20:31, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I do appreciate the update to the File:Acevedo, Rafael, House.JPG's documentation, which is substantial. Up to today, it claimed PD by incorrect assertion it was a photo by Federal employee, so I think my editing its page to remove that assertion was justified.  I did reference above the discussion at Q's talk page, and while i didn't specifically mention the assertion there of further efforts to get all or some of these resolved, I did/do wish for those to be successful.  I am quite happy that you obtained the public domain release/clarification for the IPC ones. --doncram (talk) 21:43, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I mentioned Tony obliquely above, but that's kind of beside the point. Given the existing OTRS permission, the File:Acevedo, Rafael, House.JPG image is likely public domain (he could have done the photographing while off-duty, but I think we can safely presume PD). As far as the rest go, they are attributed to a wide variety of photographers, so it seems to me that it's at least possible that not all of them were taken by employees of the IPC, which would mean they would require a different OTRS, which I imagine is what Tony has emailed about and is trying to get. I note that at least some of the ones listed above are sourced to the IPC, so maybe the can be resorted by who took which photos since, that would determine the copyright status. If they're determined to be non-free and replaceable (which they most likely are) and deleted, then if OTRS permission is received later they can always be undeleted. VernoWhitney (talk) 21:10, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * This sounds very reasonable and fair to me. I apologize for the Mistaken licensing and I will work to fix the images I have uploaded once I hear from Tony.Quazgaa (talk) 17:17, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Attempted Organization of Puerto Rico NRHP photos
Note that this is only a documentation of how they are currently tagged. I am still investigating the photographers and evidence of their associations.


 * IPC - 2010021610034321


 * File:Acevedo, Rafael, House.JPG - Hector Santiago


 * File:Biblioteca Carnegie.jpg - Alejandra Tarr "Neg. Institute of Puerto Rican Culture"


 * PRSHPO - 2010062610023503


 * File:Church Dulce Nombre de Jesus of Humacao.JPG - M. Gomez & E. Cardona "location of negatives: S.H.P.O. Puerto Rico"
 * File:Church Inmaculada Conception of Vega Alta.JPG - M. Gomez & E. Cardona "location of negatives: S.H.P.O. Puerto Rico"
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion of Cayey.JPG - M. Gomez & E. Cardona "location of negatives: S.H.P.O. Puerto Rico"
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora de la Candelaria y San Matias of Manati.JPG - M. Gomez & E. Cardona "location of negatives: S.H.P.O. Puerto Rico"
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora de la Concepcion y San Fernando of Toa Alta.JPG - M. Gomez & E. Cardona "location of negatives: S.H.P.O. Puerto Rico"
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora del Carmen of Hatillo.JPG - M. Gomez & E. Cardona "location of negatives: S.H.P.O. Puerto Rico"
 * File:Church Nuestra Senora del Rosario of Naguabo.JPG -  M. Gomez & E. Cardona "location of negatives: S.H.P.O. Puerto Rico"
 * File:Church of San Fernando of Carolina.JPG - M. Gomez & E. Cardona "location of negatives: S.H.P.O. Puerto Rico"
 * File:Church of San Isidro Labrador and Santa Maria de la Cabeza of Sabana Grande.JPG‎ - M. Gomez & E. Cardona "location of negatives: S.H.P.O. Puerto Rico"


 * File:Antiguo Casino Camuyano.jpg - Victor Lopez Reyes "Neg. State Historic Preservation Off."
 * File:Benitez, Gautier, High School.jpg - Jose Rodriquez "Negative at P.R.S.H.P.O."
 * File:Arenas Bridge.jpg - Luis Pumarada "PR-SHPO"
 * File:Blanco Bridge.jpg - Luis Pumarada "PR-SHPO"
 * File:Bridge No. 122.jpg - Luis Pumarada "PR-SHPO"
 * File:Calle Gonzalo Marin No. 61.jpg - Marni Linares "Negatives at P.R. SHPO"
 * File:Cambalache Bridge.jpg - Luis Pumarada "P.R. SHPO"
 * File:Cardona Residence.JPG - Hector Acevedo "Location of Photo Negatives: S.H.P.O. of P.R."
 * File:Casa Alcaldia de Arecibo.JPG - Marny Linares "Negatives at P.R.S.H.P.O."
 * File:Casa de la Diosa Mita.JPG - Marny Linares assuming here per the above two (Marni and Marny) and no counterexamples


 * File:Casa Blanca.JPG - Nilda Soto de Beltier "Puerto Rico SHPO"
 * File:Casa Natal de Luis Munoz Rivera.JPG -  Tomas Santos "Neg. State Hist. Preservation Off."
 * File:Casa Natal Dr. Jose Celso Barbosa.JPG - Tomas Santos "Neg. State Hist. Preservation Off."
 * File:Casino de Ponce.JPG - Pablo Ojeda "Negatives at P.R.S.H.P.O."
 * File:Cayey Bridge.JPG - Luis Pumarada "P.R. SHPO"
 * File:Cementerio Catolico San Vicente de Paul.JPG - Felix Julian del Campo "Negatives at PRSHPO"
 * File:Central Aguirre Historic District.JPG - Alberto del Toro "PRSHPO"
 * File:Puerto Rico Island Penitentiary.JPG - Alexander Fernández Bales - "Location of Negatives: Puerto Rico Historic Preservation Office"


 * File:Antiguo Casino de Puerto Rico.JPG - 	Luis Morales Photo Service
 * File:Puerto Rico Ilustrado-Edificio El Mundo.JPG - ?


 * File:Aguayo Aldea Vocational High School.JPG - Jorge Rigau "Negative on file at Colación"
 * File:Alcaldia de Caguas.JPG - Jose Rodriguez "Negative Caguas Municipal Arch."
 * File:Asilo De Pobres.jpg - Jorge Rigau "Negative at Colegio de Arquitectos"
 * File:Brunet--Calaf Residence.jpg - Milagros Graterole "Negative at Manati Municipal Arch."
 * File:Carcel de Puerta de Tierra.JPG - Jorge Diana
 * File:Casa Agostini.JPG - Jerry Torres Santiago
 * File:Casa Alcaldia de Vieques.JPG - Hector Santiago
 * File:Casa Alonso.JPG - Hector Abreu "Caguas, Location of Negative"
 * File:Casa Augusto Delerme.JPG - Hector Santiago
 * File:Casa Cordova.JPG - Hist. Arch. Survey of Arecibo
 * File:Casa de Jaime Puig Lemoine.JPG - Hector Santiago
 * File:Casa Delerme--Anduze No. 2.JPG - Hector Santiago
 * File:Casa de los Ponce de Leon.JPG - A. Tio (Academia Puertorriqueno de la Historia per doncram, but I can't seem to find it)
 * The affiliation is given in Section 11: "Form Prepared By" of the NRHP nomination text document. Section 11 covers author and date of preparation, and is many pages into these documents . For this one it is on page 4 of a 6 page document, . --doncram (talk) 04:38, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

VernoWhitney (talk) 01:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * File:Casa del Rey.JPG - Lou Alers
 * File:Casa Franceschi Antongiorgi.JPG - Jerry Torres Santiago
 * File:Casa Klumb.JPG - Javier Isado
 * File:Casa Roig.JPG - ? (Antonio Lopez per Quazgaa, but I can't seem to find it)
 * File:Casa Ulanga.JPG - Jose Carretero "Negatives Municipality Government of Arecibo"
 * File:Casona Cesari.JPG - Jerry Torres Santiago
 * File:Chalet Amill.JPG - faulty source
 * The Chalet Amill's is written by Armando Morales-Pares (of SHPO) and Jerry Torres Santiago (of Corporacion para la Educacion Cultural de Yauco (CECY)), and its  are all by Jerry Torres Santiago.  So appears either J.T.Santiago or CECY could own copyright. --doncram (talk) 17:47, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * File:Cementerio Municipal de Mayaguez.JPG - Jorge Rigau "Negative at Colegio de Arquitectos"
 * File:Central High School.JPG - Jorge Rigau - "Negative on file at Colación, Inc. A project carried out by Colación, for the Puerto Rico State Historic Preservation Office"
 * Thanks for the progress identifying 3 photos done, and providing info on others. The fact that the negatives are at the PR SHPO office is irrelevant though, I believe, based on what i know from other other cases.  The national or state offices can routinely require negatives to be submitted, perhaps so they can be ensured of being able to make nice images later for their own use, but that does not mean copyrights were signed over.  Same is true for Pennsylvania, for example, where the state office is quite clear that copyrights are not released.  It is too bad the National Register organization did not anticipate that it would be helpful, much later when wikipedia would be invented, to have required release of copyrights of photos.  They did not though, and, somewhat frustratingly, still don't. --doncram (talk) 03:19, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, so if the location of the negatives doesn't matter - and I'll grant that it's not conclusive, but it may be good for at least some kind of presumption since it doesn't appear to be mandatory here - then the only photo I've seen hard evidence for which explicitly ties it to either of the organizations is File:Acevedo, Rafael, House.JPG. Do you know of more evidence out there that could tie photographers to either organization? The nps website keeps timing out on me. :( VernoWhitney (talk) 12:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for sorting by photographer and considering further. What is the basis for the 2nd OTRS ticket, labelled PR SHPO ticket?  The two photographers appear to be private architects Marisa Gomez and Ester Cardona, working as "Investigationes Bonaire, Inc." in 1984 (per Vega Alta church NRHP nomination text document's section 11, within .  I believe that there was no process in place to transfer copyright of photos to the PR SHPO then (and there still is not for any state SHPO as far as i know).  It is possible they did work under hire of PR SHPO with appropriate transfer required, but I can't tell that from info there.  It could also have been a local organization or someone else hiring them, or without transfer of copyright as work for hire.  Does the OTRS correspondence actually clearly address that?  Article about place now at Church Inmaculada Conception of Vega Alta.  Photo set document at . --doncram (talk) 04:30, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The basis is a "Especialista Principal en Propiedad Histórica" (Specialist in Historic Property, per gtranslate) working for the PRSHPO which established that at least some of the photographs (specifically in the context of the Gomez/Cardona ones) were created as contract work and as such were PD (for the same reasons as the IPC ticket). Obviously we're taking their word on the terms of the contract, but I feel it's reasonable to do so in the absence of evidence to the contrary. No other photographers or photos were specifically addressed, thus my sorting above based on a presumption created by the location of the negatives. VernoWhitney (talk) 18:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, so you are sort of guessing. Actually, perhaps this helps:  the two architects and their Investigacione firm authored a Multiple Property Submission on Puerto Rican churches, full report at http://www.nr.nps.gov/multiples/64000741.pdf.  This is linked from the NRHP infobox in the Vega Church article, by the way.  The report covered 25 churches (see list at end), of which many then were listed on the NRHP and some were not due to owner objections.  I would now guess that the Investigacione firm got a contract to do that study for the PR SHPO.  They may well have visited all 25 churches and took photos.  I haven't checked, but i think all the items u put under the PR SHPO otrs request are churches that were covered in this study.  Further, other churches in the study that became NRHP-listed would have their photos now available.  So perhaps there are more photos which could be uploaded and fall under this PR SHPO otrs permission. --doncram (talk) 19:10, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I was asked to comment here by doncram - I have had success asking state government agencies in Pennsylvania for permission to use photos they have taken here on Wikipedia. For example, the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation released all the pictures they had taken of bridges they owned in the state that were listed in a Multiple Property Submission. See File:Plunketts Creek Bridge No. 3 Summer.jpg and its OTRS ticket for more details. I have also had inquiries result in pictures being released by the Pennsylvania Bureau of State Parks and the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection, but not of NRHP listings. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:48, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * In this case we have the permission (or rather their statement that the photos are PD), it's a matter of figuring out which ones they actually took (or contracted to be taken), in order to figure out which ones they actually can release. I'm going to go ahead and adjust the OTRS tags based on the evidence I used to sort them above, since this PUF comes up for review tomorrow. As we've established, this is just a presumption of PD, so if anyone knows of more evidence that's been missed, please speak up. VernoWhitney (talk) 01:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Note that I am also removing the IPC OTRS template from File:Antiguo Casino de Puerto Rico.JPG and File:Puerto Rico Ilustrado-Edificio El Mundo.JPG since I'm unaware of any evidence supporting their production by/for the IPC. VernoWhitney (talk) 01:44, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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 * Michael Ziegler all rights reserved. No sign of a permission. MGA73 (talk) 21:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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 * No proof of PD claim in the source of the image as far as I can tell. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 21:59, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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 * Not a free image, can be found in this article: http://sports.sympatico.ca/NHL/ContentPosting?newsitemid=072937824&feedname=CP-SPORTS-HOCKEY&show=True&number=0&showbyline=True&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc&date=True Canada Hky (talk) 22:51, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy deleted as a copyright violation. Resolute 13:50, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
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