Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2010 September 21



File:Dsc04034.jpg

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 * File:Dsc04034.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * I doubt that the uploader is the author of this file. Leyo 09:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Dsc04046.jpg

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 * File:Dsc04046.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * I doubt that the uploader is the author of this file. Leyo 09:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Dscf0078.jpg

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 * File:Dscf0078.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Licensing in doubt. Leyo 09:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Aimpoo.jpg

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 * File:Aimpoo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * unused screenshot of computer software. Claimed under pd-self. Soundvisions1 (talk) 10:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:LTTE Controlled Areas.jpg

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 * File:LTTE Controlled Areas.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unused map. Claimed as pd-self Soundvisions1 (talk) 10:37, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Aishwarya01.jpg

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 * File:Aishwarya01.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unused scan of an autographed promo photo. Uploader claims pd-self. Soundvisions1 (talk) 11:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Ck with ajay data.jpg

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 * File:Ck with ajay data.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unused personal photo. Uploader is one of the subjects in the photo, doubtful they "created this work entirely by myself". Soundvisions1 (talk) 11:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Untitled3copytm9.jpg

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 * File:Untitled3copytm9.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * To be honest, I'm not 100% sure of this one. However, this is obviously an adjusted image of the ECHL logo.  I'm not sure if this kind of alteration allows for a new copyright.  I thought it would be best to list this here and let others who know more about it chime in.  Additionally, this image is unused. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 13:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Al udall.JPG

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 * File:Al udall.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unuised image. Could be a promo photo. Uploader created an account and upped this. Soundvisions1 (talk) 13:04, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:ProjectAiko2007B.jpg

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 * File:ProjectAiko2007B.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * I don't think the up loader is actual copyright holder. This image appears at http://www.bukisa.com/articles/252871_robot-sex-slaves-are-no-longer-science-fiction and I would suspect came from the company page here that I cannot access.  However, that doesn’t change the fact that I doubt this up loader holds the copyright since the website claims © Copyright 2008 - 2010 Webika Ltd. All Rights Reserved. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 13:16, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Payman Modarres.jpg

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 * File:Payman Modarres.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This is a scan of an autographed promo photo. Uploader claims pd-self. I doubt user is copyright holder. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 13:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Legendcover.jpg

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 * File:Legendcover.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unused album cover Soundvisions1 (talk) 14:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Alaskaart.jpg

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 * File:Alaskaart.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * unused album cover Soundvisions1 (talk) 14:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Comrie Golf Club.jpg

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 * File:Comrie Golf Club.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Source is stated as "Google maps", which is not a free image source. Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 14:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Bonnybridge Golf Club.jpg

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 * File:Bonnybridge Golf Club.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Source is stated as "Google maps", which is not a free image source. Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 14:16, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Toronto at Night.jpg
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 * File:Toronto at Night.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unused image - claimed as pd-self however users other uploads vary in quality and source. See File:Oneilbanner.jpg (Could be taken by uploader), File:Fanmeetsmel.jpg (uploader is in picture) and File:TorontoMontage6FrameInfoBox.png (Sourced to Wikimedia Commons). Soundvisions1 (talk) 14:23, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Album cover 1.JPG
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 * File:Album cover 1.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unused album cover Soundvisions1 (talk) 14:40, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Lingayats.jpg
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 * File:Lingayats.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * user has a history of copyvios, this is a collage, no source provided for individual images &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Sludge-dinobots.jpg
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 * File:Sludge-dinobots.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Photograph of a non-free toy. J Milburn (talk) 16:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:10 custom gold units.JPG
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:10 custom gold units.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Photographing or scanning an image dose not create a copyright or license, so this image cannot be PD-self as listed. If anything it need to be non-free currency with appropriate Non-free use rationale. However, even if this is done, it would become a orphaned fair use image and would have to be deleted anyway --ARTEST4ECHO talk 16:45, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Armenian Fedayi Keri.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Insufficient source information to verify that the image is under the public domain. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  22:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Armenian Fedayi Keri.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This is not a PD-self image as taged. Arshak Gafavian was not a foot soldier until 1904 during the Sasun Resistance (1904), that page that this image appear.  No where does the upoader show that this image is from he 1890's (as claimed), so it may be incorrect. Even assuming it is correct, according to the Copyright Term and the Public Domain in the United States, "unpublished anonymous and pseudonymous works" are copyrighted "120 years from date of creation" or pre 1980.  Since this image was taken less then 120 years ago, unless this image was published prior to 1923 (PD-US) or the author died more than 100 years ago (currently in 1909 or earlier) (PD-old), then this image is not Public Domain.  None of this need information is supplied by uploader user:ArmenianHistoryX.--ARTEST4ECHO talk 17:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Not the best of sources, to be sure, but we can apparently figure out the (or a) source of this picture based on this ebay listing: it was a work published in 1916 in St Petersburg. Unless you see any reason to doubt this logic, tag all of the images of Gafavian PD-US-1923-abroad and PD-RusEmpire. Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see that image on that ebay page. Can you explain your reasoning? Magog the Ogre (talk) 04:53, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. I also don't see the image, but I may just be missing it since the imagve here was cropped from some other image.  I agree that it may be PD, but the uploader has failed to suppy the correct infomration to show it is.  If it is in the book, then yes PD-US-1923-abroad and {tl|PD-RusEmpire}} applie.--ARTEST4ECHO talk 11:42, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
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File:Arpad.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Arpad.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Arpad 2008.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * First, these poorly sources images are exact duplicates of each other File:Arpad.jpg, File:Arpad 2008.jpg, and File:Arpad album photosession.jpg.  Second, both Arpad.kollanyi (here and here), and Platformshoes (here) both claim to hold the copyrights.  Lastly this appears to be a publicity photo, so I doubt ether Arpad.kollanyi or Platformshoes own copyright. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 17:23, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note File:Arpad 2008.jpg has been delted as dulicate.--ARTEST4ECHO talk 12:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:AYalla.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:AYalla.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Aldopic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs])


 * Unused - looks to be an album cover or promo shot. File:Aldopic.jpg is a derivative of this from the same user but being used. Soundvisions1 (talk) 17:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:0905 web johnreames.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:0905 web johnreames.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This image is poorly sourced. No date is give, and there is no evidence that uploader created the image as stated.  I would suspect it is a publicity photo, meaning it isn't pd-self as tagged.  Additionally, I would also suspect that it was a copy of the image that was deleted previously, that was on the John Reames page, here--ARTEST4ECHO talk 17:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Boris order of ontario.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Boris order of ontario.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This appears to be a professional publicity photo. I doubt uploaded hold copyright or took photo at all.--ARTEST4ECHO talk 18:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Boruca Mask.JPG
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Boruca Mask.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This is a photograph of artwork. This dose not releases the copyright of the artwork maker.  At minimum it falls under Non-free 3D art, so it is missing Fair use information--ARTEST4ECHO talk 18:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * commons:COM:FOP tells us that Costa Rica is an unusual case. There is full freedom of panorama for both 2- and 3-d state-owned objects, both outdoors and in museums, and none under other circumstances. If we could be sure that this mask was in a museum this image would be free. As we aren't, and won't be unless the uploader tells us that it was, it will have to go. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:32, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Tombstone pizza.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Tombstone pizza.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unlicensed derivative of copyrighted package artwork/design. - Burpelson AFB ✈ 18:15, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I took the photo myself. Using your logic, we'd have to start deleting any representation of Coca-cola logos. --Ichabod (talk) 00:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It may well include trademarked material, and should be tagged with trademark, but it probably isn't art of any sort, applied or otherwise, so it is improbable that this could be protected by US copyright legislation. See commons:Commons:Derivative works. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:MariusBunescu.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:MariusBunescu.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * I see no reason this public domain, nor why PD-old-50 is applied. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:20, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Malachimartin photo.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Malachimartin photo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * see above nomination. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:21, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Lucia dos Santos.jpg
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 * File:Lucia dos Santos.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * see above nomination Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:21, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Evonnemb.jpg
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 * File:Evonnemb.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Image is watermarked by photographer. It appears to be a proof for a school photo.  The up loader is probably not the copyright holder in this case.. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 18:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Tu santidad me envuelve.jpg
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 * File:Tu santidad me envuelve.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Tod lo que respira.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs])
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 * All unused CD covers. Soundvisions1 (talk) 18:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:FDM.jpg
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 * File:FDM.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This appears to be a publicity photo for the group FDM. As such it cannot be pd-self.--ARTEST4ECHO talk 18:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Peter F Vallone headshot.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Peter F Vallone headshot.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Released as pd-self but Metadata credits the author as William Alatriste a professional photographer so unlikely to be the work of the uploader MilborneOne (talk) 18:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:JamesHaylett.jpg
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 * File:JamesHaylett.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Photographing artwork doesn’t release copyright.--ARTEST4ECHO talk 18:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Near-duplicate at File:JimmyHaylett.jpg. This seems to be posthumous portrait by a local artist, not one from life. If a case was going to be made for a non-free image it would seem better for us, and easier to justify, if we were to use one of the surviving contemporary photographs of Haylett, perhas with his crew, such as the ones here. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:20, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Monaco coin.jpg
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 * File:Monaco coin.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Photographing a coin doesn’t not release the copyright of that coin. This is probably Non-free currency. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 19:04, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Original Shell Game.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Original Shell Game.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Phone Home Game.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Original Lucky Seven.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Classic Secret X.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Penny Ante.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Original Shopping Spree Scoreboard.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
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 * These are all copyrighted TV show clips --ARTEST4ECHO talk 19:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Nintendogs first 6.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete. The file may very well have a fair use rationale, but it doesn't change the fact that it's licensed under cc-by-sa-3.0. As these covers are obviously not released under such a license, they do contain non-free elements. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  00:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Nintendogs first 6.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Image contains box art of the Nintendogs games, which are copyrighted. Acather96 (talk) 19:26, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The thumbnail images contained in the key to the Venn diagram are allowable under the rationale for use of non-free images. Please see the image page where information and rationale have been edited to reflect this. Struhs (talk) 20:50, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Denny's.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete the Denny's logo. It's orphaned anyways, and the official logo is being used in the article. There's no point is needlessly keep a derivative around, nor is there a point to bureaucratically relist it at WP:FFD. Keep the Perkins logo and marked it with PD-text. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  00:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


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 * Recreating a logo doesn’t mean you are now the copyright holder, only that you’re good at remaking copyrighted images. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 19:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


 * True enough, but for the Denny's logo, that's just text and geometric shape, so quite plausibly pd-textlogo. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:09, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:PrioryParkPoster.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:PrioryParkPoster.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This is a photgraph of a copyrighted poster. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 19:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Puerto vallarta 1969.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Puerto vallarta 1969.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This appears to come from Cascade industries inc. not a pd-self image. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 19:58, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:SQUAREOFF retouched 78.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  22:01, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * File:SQUAREOFF retouched 78.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This appears to be a promotional photo for a rap group. As such I doubt uploader has the right to release the copyright. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 20:32, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Saint Karas the Anchorite.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Saint Karas the Anchorite.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * It is very hard to tell, due to size, but this appears to have an artist signature, making it Non-free art. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 20:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Stanotas.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Stanotas.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * There is nothing here to show that the author (photo taker) died more than 100 years ago PD-old, that for images published in the U.S. before 1923 PD-US, or that uploader has the right to release the copyright.--ARTEST4ECHO talk 20:45, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:DH logo.gif
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 * File:DH logo.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * http://www.digitalhimalaya.com/contact.php shows clearly CC-BY-SA-NON Commercial licensing. Masur (talk) 20:46, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:WausauHomes logo.gif
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:WausauHomes logo.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Description says it the "Wausau Homes Corporate Logo", therefor it is un-free. --ARTEST4ECHO talk 20:56, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:Yet Another SecuROM Utility.png
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Yet Another SecuROM Utility.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Says it's a "Captured" Windows clipping, making is no-free software screen shot.--ARTEST4ECHO talk 20:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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File:AlexHooserLB2.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:AlexHooserLB2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:MorganSLB2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs])
 * File:CedricLB2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs])
 * File:DieterLB2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs])


 * These are tiny and unused, but I suspect they are all copyvios because they are all Laguna Beach Cast members and all have "LB" in their names. (And in looking over the user uploads every image has been of LB and has been deleted. These seem to be the only ones left) Soundvisions1 (talk) 22:02, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The first and third have red eye. Of course, just because something is not professional doesn't mean that it was the uploader's own work.Anyway, we're well past the point where we stop assuming the uploader either knows or cares about copyright. Angus McLellan (Talk) 01:10, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment': Huh? "The first and third have red eye"? "just because something is not professional doesn't mean that it was the uploader's own work"? I can't tell if you are being ironic or are serious. Soundvisions1 (talk) 02:39, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * We should delete these because of the uploader's record. If it had been someone else had uploaded them I might have believed they were their own work. Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
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