Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2011 January 15



File:Ellsworthstockyards.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:26, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Ellsworthstockyards.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Uploader claims copyright, but this image seems far too old for that to be possible. With no source or author, it's impossible to determine whether this is in the public domain. — ξ xplicit  00:11, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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File:Kumbharam Arya1.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Kumbharam Arya1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * likely scan of a newspaper image per the grains and resolution. Unknown as to date/location of publication, but conflicting claim of PD-Self. The image is part of this CCI. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:04, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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File:Hulhumee.jpg

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 * File:Hulhumee.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This is a satellite image of an island—unlikely to have been created by the uploader, as claimed. —Bkell (talk) 18:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: At the bottom edge of the image, just to the right of the lower tip of the island, it appears that there was once some text (possibly a copyright notice) that has been blotted out. —Bkell (talk) 18:45, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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File:Langues de la France2.PNG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Langues de la France2.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * The file has a non excisting license. It was probably ment to be GFDL. But the permission is a "For Wikipedia" and we have no proof of it. Since the file is unused I suggest we just delete it. MGA73 (talk) 19:03, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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File:John E Erickson.jpg

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 * File:John E Erickson.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * File page says "Taken before 1938 meaning that any previously held copyright has expired"- Why is that? Are all photos before 1938 PD or what? I think we need more info to verify the PD claim. MGA73 (talk) 19:10, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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File:18Light.JPG

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 * File:18Light.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * If you check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flashboard_2a.JPG you can see that it is fair use here so how would this be non-copyrighted? -- Addi hockey  10  e-mail 19:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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File:Andrew Dickson White statue and Goldwin Smith Hall.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Andrew Dickson White statue and Goldwin Smith Hall.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No authorship information on depicted 3D work of art. Kelly  hi! 20:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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File:MountainCatProudSign.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


 * File:MountainCatProudSign.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Logo would probably be copyrighted. On original file File:BlackingtonIner2.jpg it would be de minimis but not here. MGA73 (talk) 21:26, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, it is not in use anyway. CrazyPaco (talk) 02:25, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
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File:Ksshahlkhan.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  19:32, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Ksshahlkhan.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).

Respected MGA73 I have uploaded it after getting the permission from the family of Khan Sahib Shahal Khan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dadanjani (talk • contribs) 17:07, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The file has no license. Shahal Khan Khoso died in 1956 so photo is probably not old enough to be PD-old. MGA73 (talk) 21:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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File:Klement Gottwald - RO.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Klement Gottwald - RO.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * There is no valid license on the photo. Uploader might have meant Commons:Template:PD-RO-exempt but I do not think, that file will meet those criterias there. MGA73 (talk) 22:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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File:China Eastern Airlines A330-300.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete all. The uploader hung himself eight ways to Sunday on this one, in English. I can't speak or read Chinese, so that part of the discussion was disregarded, and in any case, users are supposed to communicate in English on the English Wikipedia. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:39, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * File:China Eastern Airlines A330-300.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * File:China Eastern Airlines A330-300.jpg
 * File:China Eastern Airlines A320-200.jpg
 * File:China Eastern Airlines A340-600.jpg
 * File:China Cargo Airlines B777F.jpg
 * File:Shanghai Airlines B767-300ER.jpg
 * File:Shanghai Airlines B737-800.jpg
 * File:Shanghai Airlines B757.jpg
 * File:China Spring Airlines.jpg
 * File:Air China B737-800.jpg
 * File:Air China B777-200.jpg
 * File:Air China A330-200 Star Alliance.jpg
 * File:China Eastern A333 Hongqiao.jpg
 * File:Shanghai alt und neu.jpg
 * File:China Eastern's Business Class on Airbus A330-300.jpg(Friend picture)
 * File:China Eastern A346.jpg(Friend picture)
 * File:Shanghai Pudong International Airport Overview.jpg(Friend picture)
 * File:Shanghai Hongqiao International Airport Terminal 2.jpg
 * File:Shanghai Hongqiao Airport at night.jpg
 * File:Pudong Airport Terminal 2 Outside.jpg
 * File:Control tower.jpg
 * File:The exterior of Terminal 1.jpg
 * File:The interior of Terminal 1.jpg
 * File:The interior of Terminal 2.jpg
 * File:HA A330-200 Meilan Airport.jpg
 * File:Hainan Airlines A340-600 takeoff.jpg
 * File:Hainan Airlines B737-800 takeoff.jpg
 * File:Economy Class seats with PTV on the A340-600.jpg
 * File:Business Class seats on the A330-200.jpg
 * File:One of the Hainan Airlines Business Class menu.jpg
 * File:Tianjin Airlines ERJ-190.jpg
 * File:Tianjin Airlines ERJ-145.jpg
 * File:China Southern Airlines Sky Team Livery.jpg
 * File:China Airlines B777-200ER takeoff.jpg
 * File:China Southern Airlines A330-300 Taxi.jpg
 * File:China Southern Airlines A321-200 Takeoff.jpg
 * File:CSA First Class seat on the A330-300.jpg
 * File:CSA One of the Business Class menus.jpg
 * File:CEA One of Business Class menus.jpg
 * File:CEA First Class seats on the A330-300.jpg
 * File:China Eastern B767-300ER.jpg
 * File:Shanghai Airlines B737-800 Shanghai Hongqiao.jpg(Friend picture)
 * File:SA Business Class on the B767-300ER.jpg(Friend picture)
 * File:Shanghai Airlines One of Business Class menus.jpg(Friend picture)
 * File:Economy Class seats with PTV on the A340-600.jpg


 * User has uploaded a number of images obtained from friends with no evidence of appropriate release, all are sourced to "Friend" but tagged as gfdl-self MilborneOne (talk) 22:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Friends of mine took these digital pictures in China and share them with me. We even printed them out. Actually I can say they are my own work, because they ask me to do something in Picasa or Photoshop. Their digital version are preserved in my computer. These friend names are just call names in chinese, like DJDJDJ's full name is Chen Duwang, Machree: Ma Laoluan. Regards.

Markshen1985 (talk) 22:37, 15 January 2011 (UTC)Markshen1985


 * Having a copy of the image or changing it with photoshop or picasa does not transfer any rights to you to that image. You need to clearly identify the source of each image and then each of the sources have to provide evidence to wikipedia that they release the images as GFDL or other acceptable licence, refer to Requesting copyright permission MilborneOne (talk) 22:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey man, how can I contact all these friends to ask them identifing the image I used? Some of these pictures were taken even 2 years ago. Can I tag them as own work? Because the author name "Mark Shen" is ME. I just copy and paste the source as "Friend", but many of them are my own work. Markshen1985 (talk) 23:09, 15 January 2011 (UTC)Markshen1985


 * Note the user is now changing the source of the some of the images from "Friend" to "Own work". Markshen1985 if they were your own work why have you said previously that your friends in China took them? MilborneOne (talk) 11:15, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I have already said, some pictures are from my friends(6 pictures), the rest are my own work(the pictures's author tagged as "Mark Shen", That is my NAME)! Why don't you trust me? Already added information next to the file. Maybe there are some language misunderstandings in my prvious explanation. I speak German and Chinese. English not good. Sorry. Thank you. Markshen1985 (talk) 11:18, 16 January 2011 (UTC)Markshen1985


 * Just an example - when you uploaded File:China Eastern Airlines A340-600.jpg you sourced it from the web (author Wuyeah). The image bot tagged it as no licence so you changed it to source=self/author=Mark Sheen as GFDL-self. A few minutes later you changed it back to source=friend. Today you have changed it to source=own work and you have not mentioned it as a work of a friend in the list above. The image is not dated but if you can upload another image taken at exactly the same place with camera meta data (not picasa) it would provide evidence that you were in that location. MilborneOne (talk) 11:54, 16 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you could also help if you uploaded an image taken today with camera meta data to show that you own the following cameras Nikon D5000 a Canon EOS 40D, Sony DSC-H50, a Canon EOS 450D, Nikon D300, Pentax K20D and a Canon EOS Kiss Digital N. MilborneOne (talk) 12:18, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

So the next step I should hand my camera to you? Ridiculous. You can do whatever you do. I will not argue any long. It's a bit wasting time. Good luck. You can do this to all the picture uploader to ask them do the same thing. Look what you have written: "You could also help if you uploaded an image taken today with camera meta data to show that you own the following cameras" Just ridiculous. bUT I can tell you, I don't own any camera you mentioned. I have a Nikon D90. I took pictures at Shanghai Hongqiao Airport Observation platform. That's it. whether you trust or not, I don't care. Who think you are? Funny.I will do nothing what you ask me to do. It worths nothing. Because you even don't respect others and act if you were a lord or something. Markshen1985 (talk) 13:03, 16 January 2011 (UTC)Markshen1985


 * Not an unreasonable request, the images you uploaded and said you took were taken with the cameras listed, which you deny owning. Any photographer would not find it a problem to explain what cameras were used and if needed upload a recent image. And I am sure if you had been to Canada then it would not be a problem to upload another image from the same location to show that you had visited Canada. It is not a matter of trust the facts dont add up. I will leave others to assess the situation. MilborneOne (talk) 13:43, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

What? How can you say that these picuture are all taken with the cameras that you mentioned? Why not with a Nikon 90? I did vistied Canada and travelled with that A340-600 which I took the photo. Stop spreading your arrogence here. I mentioned that you serve as Royal Air Force. Maybe you get accustomed to order others or to be ordered. Sorry, it doesn't work in normal life. Markshen1985 (talk) 15:57, 16 January 2011 (UTC)Markshen1985
 * 闭上你的嘴啦！ 兄弟，你再这样讲下去只会越描越黑的，你到底要不要我帮你啊？？？ -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 16:08, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

当然啦！搞不动，为什么纠缠不清. 前几天修改了中国南航的页面，引起印度人不满，然后他跑去把页面又搞了一塌糊涂，又和印度人吵了一架. 为什么这里的人都那么critical呢？　谢谢你的帮忙 Markshen1985 (talk) 16:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)Markshen1985


 * 兄弟，我建议你谦虚的请教他人，不要把自己看的这么高，管理员已经是很客气的跟你说话了，你再不收敛的话，恐怕我都很难帮你了. 回去你的对话页那里再谈吧. -- Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 16:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

呵呵，外国人一般是信任自己的，钻牛角尖也要坚持自己的看法. 他觉得你侵权就是侵权，所以没办法罗，这些照片是保不住了. Markshen1985 (talk) 16:35, 16 January 2011 (UTC)Markshen1985


 * 兄弟，我也是外国人啊，你那张的臭嘴巴真的有这么大吗？ 听好，不是我们觉得你侵权，而是我们觉得你越权啊. 拜托啦. . . 别再敬酒不喝、喝罚酒了，你再不乖乖地听话回去你的对话页面跟我谈的话，别怪我不给你面子了哦. 这是我给你的最后警告了！ -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 17:05, 16 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Everyone else hold your horses, this is getting a bit heated up. Mark, can you read Chinese text if I type it out to you? Best. -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 15:26, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * MB1, he just confessed to me on his discussion page that he only has one camera, that confirms our suspicion that he isn't the author for most, if not all, of the photos listed above. -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 17:48, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, one camera(Nikon D90), but all pictures were edited with neoimaging (reference: http://www.neoimaging.cn/)　or English website (http://www.neoimaging.cn/en/index.html). So it may influnce your judgments. PS:For all the rude words, (my overreaction) I say sorry to everyone, especially MB1. Regrads, Markshen1985 (talk) 19:01, 16 January 2011 (UTC)Markshen1985
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