Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2011 March 27



File:Iman+Shumpert+-+Georgia+Tech mpeg4.theora.ogv

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete as F9. SchuminWeb (Talk) 07:42, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
 * File:Iman+Shumpert+-+Georgia+Tech mpeg4.theora.ogv ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Lists source as "youtube" and provides no way to verify the PD claim. Eeekster (talk) 01:37, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

The original video can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHOpu328Fs and the original creator used footage from espn,raycom and the ACC which was edited by the poster, since the creator was able to create the video using previously captured footage and posted it on youtube I assumed that the video was in the public domain just because of its edited nature and its posting on youtube. Jackknight28 (talk) 01:56, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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File:George+W.+Bush+-+9 11+Bullhorn+Speech mpeg4.theora.ogv

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus. After Midnight 0001 02:17, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * File:George+W.+Bush+-+9 11+Bullhorn+Speech mpeg4.theora.ogv ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).

I'm writing in response to your notice that the video of George W. Bush's 9/11 bullhorn speech does not have any explicit copyright status included in the description, I have now included a link to the original website at http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/gwbush911groundzerobullhorn.htm instead of youtube, which details the current copyright status of the video as in the public domain. Is this sufficient to remove the copyright tag and the unfree images tag or do more links and permissions need to be required? Thanks for the help in advance as I'm sort of figuring out how to do this as I go. Jackknight28 (talk) 05:10, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Claims Youtube as a source. No way to verify PD claim. Eeekster (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The following is copied from my talk page:

Looking at the new source provided for File:George+W.+Bush+-+9 11+Bullhorn+Speech mpeg4.theora.ogv, I am still troubled by how that site indicates the source of the movie. Specifically, it says "public domain" without itself revealing the source of the video. My issue is this: It could be public domain as a work of the Federal Government, or it could be a privately made video. I have no way of knowing. That's the problem. Unless it's absolutely verifiable that the material is in fact definitely public domain, we can't use it. [remainder of my comment clipped because it's not relevant]


 * It would appear that while the uploader has indeed made a good-faith effort to rectify the copyright concerns, it is still insufficient. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:22, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

The website from which the original video is derived is detailed by http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/gwbush911groundzerobullhorn.htm as being http://www.whitehouse.gov this can be found toward the bottom of the page after Audio, Video, Images source. Jackknight28 (talk) 12:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, it is difficult to even verify that this was ever posted on whitehouse.gov, as (to no surprise) the Obama Administration has seemed to have removed most of the Bush related content on that site. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:57, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The final Bush site was actually archived by NARA when the Obama administration launched its new site at whitehouse.gov. The Bush site is at http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/, and would appear to be fully functional.  Perhaps it's in there somewhere?  SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Looking on the Bush archive site that SchuminWeb mentions, I suspect that it is the video related to as the transcript seems to match the video content. I can't get the Realplayer video to work, so there's still some doubt in my mind. Having said that, this video is of very poor quality. Presumably the original, if anyone with more time to spend on this can get it to work, was much better. Or maybe the audio file would be better although since that's a Realplayer file too I can't get it to work either. Angus McLellan  (Talk) 13:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been working on this and I just can't figure out how to extract the audio. Maybe someone more tech savvy could figure it out, but I'm at a loss. --Danger (talk) 05:21, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
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File:Brownieuniform.JPG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Brownieuniform.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Guideuniform.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Smudgepuss ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads)
 * File:Ssuniform.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Smudgepuss ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads)
 * File:Rainbowuniform.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) – uploaded by Smudgepuss ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads)


 * I am unable to verify that the copyright status provided here is true. The links to both the photo's source and the copyright page provided are dead, and the site's current copyright page says nothing of the sort, and in fact, speaks quite to the contrary.  As a fair use image, this would fail WP:NFCC, as this is an easily replaceable photo (girl scout parents, grab your camera!), so if it's not free, we need to get rid of it. SchuminWeb (Talk) 07:40, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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File:Tribals.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Tribals.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Obviously an old photograph, implausible claim of own work. No source, may or may not be public domain. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:42, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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File:Cyrilradcliffe.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Cyrilradcliffe.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Historical photograph. Old upload, claimed as PD-self, but was uploaded by an editor who was hardly born when the person depicted died. Might conceivably be PD, but most likely not. NFC use might also be feasible, but PD-self is implausible. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:48, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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File:Battle of Muros.jpg

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 * File:Battle of Muros.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Marine painting of unknown authorship, claimed PD-old without clear evidence. Painting of a 16th-century battle, in a style vaguely imitating 18th/19th century models. As it's certainly not contemporary to the battle (on stylistic grounds), it could be created at any time, including the 20th century. Taken from a museum shop website, where unfortunately no info on authorship and age is provided; some other items in the same collection are very clearly modern. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:25, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Update: may have been PD-old after all, but uploader has requested deletion after discussion that led to consensus the painting was historically inaccurate. Deleted under CSD G7. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:21, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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File:IMG 0000079.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


 * File:IMG 0000079.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Conflictingly tagged as public domain but summary implies it was intended to be fair use. Subject (Hsing Yun) is a living person, so the portrait is too recent to be PD and could not be used with a fair use claim. January ( talk ) 14:04, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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File:EichmannAdolfSS.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete. While it certainly may be true that the image is PD in the US, there must be evidence for this assertion - see WP:COPYOTHERS. was at one point sourced in general to the NARA, but no specific source was provided so this could not be verified nor was any image turned up in a search there or on any other .gov site. The only source which I have been able to personally locate which indicates a source is the Holocaust Museum which credits a picture service, not the government. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:59, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * File:EichmannAdolfSS.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This was not published before 1923; Eichmann would have been 16 years old at the time, and from what I see in his article, he didn't even enter a military organization until 1932. In fact, the caption under his image says "Eichmann in 1942", meaning that even if this image is anonymous, it's not Anonymous-EU, let alone PD-URAA. Would likely qualify as fair use under Adolf Eichmann. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:07, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The permission field claims it is public domain in the United States as enemy property from World War II, like the photographs of H. Hoffmann, which as it notes are exempt from the URAA. The question is whether this photo actually was this enemy property. &mdash;innotata 15:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I just noticed that the images below were deleted, without any consideration of whether this provision might apply to them, or fair use. Can they be undeleted? &mdash;innotata 15:14, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
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File:LutherMartinGermanForeignOffice.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


 * File:LutherMartinGermanForeignOffice.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * see above nomination; didn't work as officer in the party until 30s or 40s. Would likely qualify as fair use under Martin Luther (diplomat). Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:10, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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File:StuckartWilhelm.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


 * File:StuckartWilhelm.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * see above; would likely qualify as fair use in Wilhelm Stuckart. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:12, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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File:HofmannOttoRuSHA.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


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 * see above; would likely qualify as fair use in Otto Hofmann. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:12, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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File:MuellerHeinrichGestapo.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


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 * see above; would likely qualify as fair use in Heinrich Müller (Gestapo). Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:13, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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