Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2012 July 26



File:Producerallanbanford.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Producerallanbanford.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * appears to be professional headshot; no metadata; uploader has prior claims of "self" to (c) works Skier Dude  ( talk ) 00:37, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
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File:Allan 2.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Allan 2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * appears to be professional headshot; metadata=adobe photoshop; uploader has prior claims of "self" to (c) works Skier Dude  ( talk ) 00:37, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
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File:Aoife Madden.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Aoife Madden.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * appears to be professional headshot; metadata=adobe photoshop; uploader has prior claims of "self" to (c) works Skier Dude  ( talk ) 00:37, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
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File:Owl Dashboard Screenshot Black.png

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The result of the discussion was: Keep: No consensus to delete; defaults to Keep. Dianna (talk) 03:44, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Owl Dashboard Screenshot Black.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * The screenshot of a piece of software, no link to the source clarifying software license provided. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 08:56, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * FWIW the file is currently only used in Kthompsobass's copy of deleted article. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 01:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not (generally speaking) a screenshot of a functional piece of software. It's a UI design created by me (as an example, not a commercial product) and posted as a self-made image.  The source, author, and license are all listed in the description of the image.  My image is marked for deletion because someone mistakenly (but justifiably) thought it was an image of a commercial product (which it's not) and failed to talk to me before taking action.  --Kthompsobass (talk) 19:00, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * As noted in Owl (software), this "self-made image" is an example of a customized UI of the software (recombination of widgets that come with software and can be merely rearranged). In other words, it is somehow analogous to Microsoft Access report form, though it has smaller degree of possible customization. I'm not entirely sure that recombination of copyrighted material can be released under this file's license terms. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 23:07, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Most of the design aspects can be attributed to me (layout, widget selection, color scheme, font selection, copy) and the concept and behavior are also products of my work, although they're not evident from a screenshot. The software use rights for SAP's crystal products seem to state that they have no issue with screenshots provided you don't do a few unsavory things (which I haven't).  Although I think it's sufficiently clear that even though the image contains some copyrighted material, the design is sufficiently transformative to be considered my own creative work and should have its own copyright.  My only concern is that perhaps I have not taken adequate steps to inform the reader that the UI is developed in Crystal dashboard design and is not a component of Owl's interface, which I shall remedy.  --Kthompsobass (talk) 16:00, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
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File:Maurice Breton.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: fair use. If a free equivalent turns out to exist, this image should be deleted. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:35, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Maurice Breton.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).

For Crown copyrighted works, there is a slight difference. Section 12 of the Copyright Act stipulates:
 * This file is shown on the Parliament of Canada web site as "© House of Commons 1953" and may not be public domain in Canada YUL89YYZ (talk) 17:04, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have done some more research and according to this web site http://publications.gc.ca/site/eng/ccl/aboutCopyright.html:

12. Without prejudice to any rights or privileges of the Crown, where any work is, or has been, prepared or published by or under the direction or control of Her Majesty or any government department, the copyright in the work shall, subject to any agreement with the author, belong to Her Majesty and in that case shall continue for the remainder of the calendar year of the first publication of the work and for a period of fifty years following the end of that calendar year. [S.C. 1993, c. 44, s. 60(1)]

I would take this to mean any picture that is older than 1963 is public domain in Canada. Can someone confirm this? --YUL89YYZ (talk) 17:17, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

(Here's the link to the actual law mentioned above: http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-42/page-8.html#docCont) --YUL89YYZ (talk) 17:19, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I am inclined to agree with the position that the image is PD due to the expiration of Crown Copyright. The Parlimaent website states that it re-uses non-governmental material in places and informs the reader they need to seek re-use permision from those third parties in those cases. But here, the government is asserting that it held copyright itself, and they are asserting 1953 as the date of copyright.  As such, it would have fallen into the public domain on January 1, 2005. Resolute 17:55, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree that the image is public domain in Canada. The problem is that the image also needs to be public domain in the U.S. (as evidenced by the PD tag on the image). U.S. copyright law does not recognize crown copyright.  As this image was not in the public domain in Canada prior to January 1, 1996 (the URAA date), the regular U.S. rules would apply and this image would still be copyrighted. Having said all that, it is somewhat ridiculous that an image of the Canadian government, that the government itself declared to be public domain in its copyright legislation, is considered copyrighted in a different country.  For U.K. Crown Copyright, the U.K. government has confirmed to Wikimedia that images with expired U.K. crown copyright are considered to be public domain worldwide.  Ideally, we should get similar confirmation for Canada.  Would everyone be agreeable, given that this image is clearly public domain in its source country and considered to be so by its prior copyright owner, that we hold this discussion in abeyance to allow us to formulate a strategy in respect of this issue?  There are many, many images over at the Commons with this issue, and I propose to start a discussion there to hopefully resolve this.  I will do so shortly and advise of the particulars, assuming everyone agrees with that approach. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:08, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
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File:Michelle McCool,Talk About Women's Champion,31 Jan 2010.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  00:00, 4 August 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Michelle McCool,Talk About Women& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unlikely to be the work of the uploader. Eeekster (talk) 17:36, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
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