Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2012 May 18



File:George Vasey.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:George Vasey.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * see commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:George Vasey.jpg Magog the Ogre (talk) 06:08, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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Various post-1945 Australia images

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The result of the discussion was: delete all. If anyone wishes to have any of the images portraying deceased individuals restored to add a fair use rationale instead, feel free to contact me (or request undeletion at WP:REFUND) and specify the exact image(s) you want restored. — ξ xplicit  01:02, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * File:AC Rowing Eight 1950.PNG (added; had been accidentally omitted Magog the Ogre (talk) 07:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC))
 * File:AC Rowing Stroke 1950.JPEG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:AC Rowing Team 1950.JPEG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Alice Betteridge meets Helen Keller.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Alice Betteridge knitting.jpg (added; had been accidentally omitted Magog the Ogre (talk) 07:03, 18 May 2012 (UTC))
 * File:Barkerstation.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:BernieSmith.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Buckleys Cave.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Charlie Sutton.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Darcy Dugan 1949.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * File:Francis Hassett AWM HOBJ2314.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * http://cas.awm.gov.au/photograph/HOBJ2314 - "Image copyright: Copyright expired - public domain". There is much more than enough information on the en:wp page. Why has this file been nominated? Pdfpdf (talk) 12:33, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Garden Island attack graphic attempt.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Hazelwood park first creek 1950.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Heidelberg-duplication.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:HMAS Vengeance (AWM 301634).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:HollwayERL1952.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:HS 1st XVIII AFL 1951.JPEG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:HS Prefects 1953.JPEG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:HS Rowing Team 1950.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:HS Rowing Team 1952.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:HS Rowing Team 1954.JPEG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:HS Shooting 1954.JPEG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:HS Tennis Courts 1953.JPEG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:JackSheedy.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:John Coleman.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:John Ewart Jimmy The Argonauts 1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:JohnLandy Malvern.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:KeithMiller1954.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Kraft van.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Len Pye.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:MervMcIntosh.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Montague packing shed exterior.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Nan Chauncy.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Neil Davies.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:NormanBanks.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Ocean grove aerialview 1946.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Paddy Hannan Memorial.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Parliament house sa.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Port-Dock-station-1952.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Railway 1950.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Rex Garwood.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Rhino (AWM 127718).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]) . (nominated in error Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:06, 21 May 2012 (UTC))
 * File:SC AFL Team 1950.JPEG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:SteveMarsh.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Stuart Spencer.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).

See commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Various PD-Australia after 1945. Please note that some of these images may be eligible for fair use. Magog the Ogre (talk) 06:29, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Please note that some of these images are validly PD-Australia. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:09, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, delete, unfree. Hesperian 11:45, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * What an amazingingly ill-informed and ill-considered comment! Many of them are validly PD-Australia, and hence are not "unfree". Laziness is not sufficient justification for doing anything - only justification for not doing anything. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:09, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, you'll go far in life, going around telling people their comments are ill-informed, ill-considered, and motivated by laziness. Good luck with that. Hesperian 11:08, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete many. Images that are not public domain in the United States are considered non-free per Wikipedia and Commons policy.  These images are not public domain in the United States.  (A photo needed to be public domain in Australia as of 1996 to be public domain in the United States now, and these were not public domain in Australia as of that date.)  Many of these images do not meet the WP:NFCC.  Some that do in my opinion:
 * An infobox image to show what a deceased person looks like: File:Alice Betteridge knitting.jpg, File:BernieSmith.jpg, File:Charlie Sutton.jpg, File:Darcy Dugan 1949.jpg, File:Francis Hassett AWM HOBJ2314.jpg, File:JackSheedy.jpg, File:John Coleman.jpg, File:John Ewart Jimmy The Argonauts 1.jpg, File:JohnLandy Malvern.jpg, File:KeithMiller1954.jpg (but note that many many other images in this article also appear to be non-free in the us and should be deleted), File:Len Pye.gif, File:MervMcIntosh.jpg, File:Nan Chauncy.jpg, File:Neil Davies.jpg, File:Rex Garwood.gif, File:SteveMarsh.jpg, File:Stuart Spencer.jpg
 * For the bio photos, it may be worth investigating for some of these people whether we could locate a pre-1946 photo that would be PD in the US. Also if these images are kept they will need to be removed from non-biography pages.
 * File:Rhino (AWM 127718).jpg - WWII military prototype
 * File:Port-Dock-station-1952.jpg - train station no longer open
 * I believe the rest of the images should be deleted. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete all for various reasons:
 * Per Wikipedia policy, free files need to be free in the United States. However, it is irrelevant if they are free in any other country or not. The mentioned website only provides the copyright status in Australia which doesn't have to be the same as the copyright status in the United States. In particular, Australian photos taken in 1946 or later are always copyrighted in the United States.
 * Some photos don't seem to have any real source. At least one of the photos had a dead link, so it wasn't possible to find a year of creation at all. Such photos might be copyrighted in both Australia and the United States. Some of them might be pre-1946 photos, but without more information, we would have to delete them as improperly sourced.
 * In many cases, there is no evidence of publication. The pre-1946 rule only applies to photos which were published before 1 March 1989 (and not even to all of them). If unpublished, Australian photos are copyrighted for either life+70 years or creation+120 years in the United States, depending on the photographer's employment terms. This also applies to pre-1946 photos.
 * Some photos may be eligible for fair use. However, per wmf:Resolution:Licensing policy, images under a fair use claim have to be clearly indicated as being kept under a fair use claim. These images are not currently indicated as being kept under a fair use claim. If file information pages and image use are adjusted to fit WP:NFCC (including WP:NFCC), I don't mind keeping images.
 * Stefan2 (talk) 14:46, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:GulaboRamnivas1208.GIF

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:GulaboRamnivas1208.GIF ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Uploader possesses a copy of the image, isn't the copyright holder &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  11:07, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - the uploader has a shedload of similar problems both here and at Commons. They seem to think that adding a border to a photo makes it "own work", and these issues have been going on for a year or more now. - Sitush (talk) 11:10, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:Kranti Geetanjali 2745.JPG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Kranti Geetanjali 2745.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * The book was published in 1929, however, this book cover is from a 2006 reprint and therefore without release from the artist (unable to find who it is) this image should be treated as copyrighted. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  12:11, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:Mangal Pandey393.GIF

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Mangal Pandey393.GIF ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Photo of artwork, no evidence of date or PD status of artwork (no release from the author either) &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  12:15, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:Pistol of Azad 2703.JPEG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Pistol of Azad 2703.JPEG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No evidence that the source book (title not provided) is out of copyright or that the source image itself is out of copyright. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  12:17, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:Coloana Infinitului 2.JPG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Coloana Infinitului 2.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No Freedom of Panorama in Romania per Commons:COM:FOP. MGA73 (talk) 17:53, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:RichardBurgi.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:RichardBurgi.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Metadata says "© Barry Selby Photography. All Rights Reserved". License at Flickr is CC BY-NC-SA. January  ( talk ) 18:04, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:ChanHeung.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:ChanHeung.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No good source and author seems to be disputed. Originally unknown author but later another user claimed to be the author. MGA73 (talk) 18:13, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom - source of own is dubious as same image originally uploaded by User:Huo Xin. User:Clftruthseeking added the own a month later.  Nik the  stoned  14:41, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:Anshuman Singh Pht-.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Anshuman Singh Pht-.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Says its from their Facebook page. Doubtful user is copyright holder  SKATER  Is Back 18:51, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:John berry.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:John berry.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * There is no clear source. There is a GFDL-self license. But with a publicity shot we should perhaps ask for a permission. MGA73 (talk) 18:51, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:Delilah.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Delilah.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * There is no clear source. There is a GFDL-self license. But with a publicity shot we should perhaps ask for a permission. MGA73 (talk) 18:51, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, per above - unlikely to be GFDL-self given it is indeed a publicity shot. Also an orphan.  Nik the  stoned  14:53, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:Muzammil_siddiqi.gif

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Muzammil siddiqi.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * low-res b/w official portrait-type photo; only contribution by uploader Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:42, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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