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File:B11architecture exteriors040.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:04, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * File:B11architecture exteriors040.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * http://imageafter.com/terms.php Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:42, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:BallCapzHelmet.png

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:03, 25 April 2013 (UTC)


 * File:BallCapzHelmet.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Artistic helmet design, no indication up loader hold copyright in that design. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:45, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Bbook6.gif

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:03, 25 April 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Bbook6.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Clearly a book cover. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:57, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Beecher-selected.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:03, 25 April 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Beecher-selected.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Book cover Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:03, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Canada Volunteer Medal of Honour.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:14, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Canada Volunteer Medal of Honour.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This is a medal design. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:17, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:C-Net Logo.svg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:14, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * File:C-Net Logo.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * How is this German Government? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:BuildingTradesNFHS.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  15:09, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * File:BuildingTradesNFHS.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This is an artwork. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:17, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Stereolove, DJ James Fraser.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. OTRS confirmed.
 * File:Stereolove, DJ James Fraser.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * It says that this is a "Picture taken of myself by a photographer". This means that the claim further down that the uploader is the photographer is a lie. Permission is needed from the photographer. Stefan2 (talk) 13:25, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Stefan this picture was paid for by myself as part of a series of profile shots I had done for my website. The photographer was Jes Swallow, he was paid for his work, and I have sent an email to Wiki affirming my ownership of this image. The image can also been found on my SoundCloud page and website page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJStereolove (talk • contribs) 00:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It is important that an email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org contain an appropriate permission from the "copyright holder", not just the person in physical possession of the image. Depending on the laws of your country, unless you have an agreement transferring copyright to you, it may be that the professional photographer retains the copyright, even though you paid him for the finished product. --B (talk) 00:40, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello B, Yes I did what you have suggested prior to your posting, I sent an email to the email address permissions-en@wikimedia.org, and I have made mention of that in the posting by Stefan2. I do not require a release from my photographer as he was paid for his work by myself, and our agreement is that all the pictures are free for me to use as I see fit, without any limitations on their use. The photographer is Jes Swallow and he can be found on the Flickr under the user name Mugley. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJStereolove (talk • contribs) 01:05, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hold pending OTRS - DJStereolove forwarded me the same statement of permission that he sent to OTRS and it looks fine. --B (talk) 02:47, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:1900s Robert Balfour MP.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Deleted by
 * File:1900s Robert Balfour MP.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Created circa 1900, but date of first publication unknown. Unless published before 1923, it is presumably protected by copyright in the United States. Stefan2 (talk) 13:27, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Puntland presidential.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Transfer to Commons. PD-Somalia. Moved by
 * File:Puntland presidential.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Clearly wrong source since it appears here but maybe it qualifies for Commons:Template:PD-Somalia? Stefan2 (talk) 14:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:JubalandCoatsofArms.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Move to Commons. PD-Somalia, moved by
 * File:JubalandCoatsofArms.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Clearly invalid source (see e.g. ), but maybe it qualifies for Commons:Template:PD-Somalia? Stefan2 (talk) 14:11, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear stefan2, you have to look again and compare the two image, one I have designed with higher resolution on the 7th of April 2013 and Uploaded into wiki, the other image you, stefan2 referencing is clearly different with its low resolution and have been probably designed by that website you linked to, also, if I design the coat of the arms of a X with higher resolution are you going to come up with such accusation? You can chech here too, this image have been duplicated and redisigned and its widely all over the place, so the one I have desinged can not be subject to the copyright you suggesting. Thank you Abdirisak (talk) 14:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The image was posted to the other website more than a week before it was posted here. More likely, both images were stolen from a third place. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2013 (UTC)


 * WOW, STOLEN! So now you accusing me that I stolen this drawing from somewhere? I FOUND THAT WORD OFFENSIVE, VERY OFFENSIVE INDEED. Abdirisak (talk) 15:30, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Is this coat of arms of your own original design? Did you create the artwork from scratch and not derive it from anyone else's work?  If not, you didn't make it and you don't own the copyright.  Merely tracing the artwork of another does not make your own any more than photocopying a book would make it your own.  Now, the question needs to be answered - is the underlying coat of arms public domain? --B (talk) 22:44, 17 April 2013 (UTC)


 * What are you on about B? read it again what I have written above before you jump into misplaced questions, certainly I did not claim THAT I OWN the originality of the artworks, I made it with higher resolution, the regional emblem is widely on the Public Domain, but if editors like you are making meal of it then be it. Abdirisak (talk) 09:33, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Calm down. The purpose of this exercise is not to put you through the inquisition - it is to accurately assess the status of the image.  A lot of people incorrectly believe that copying or slightly modifying the work of someone else makes them the copyright holder.  Is the COA public domain by virtue of being really, really old and no longer subject to copyright protection?  Or is it an original work of someone in Somalia, which, according to stefan2's template has no copyright relations with the US?  If either of those is the case, that's fine - it just needs to be adequately explained.  --B (talk) 12:07, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Iskushuban districkMap.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  15:09, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Iskushuban districkMap.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Derivative work of a map. Stefan2 (talk) 15:22, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:SHB Champasak 2013.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F1 by AnomieBOT ⚡  17:20, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * File:SHB Champasak 2013.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Threshold of originality concern, and organisational logo, so i am skeptical that this is the uploaders own work. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:43, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Winnertakesall.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Reasonable identification of sculptor as the photographer of his own work. See below
 * File:Winnertakesall.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Modern 3D sculpture in US - No Freedom of Panorama - Flickr is violating copyright  Ron h jones  (Talk) 20:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have direct contact with the artist. This is his flickr page. These are his photos that he took of his artwork. I asked him to update permission to "Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic" for these select photos before uploading. Please advise what steps I can take to keep these on this Wikipage. Thanks. '''--Eatgreens2 (talk) 02:30, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * You need the artist to confirm the license with the OTRS permissions queue. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 07:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Please see ongoing discussion ( Possibly_unfree_files/2013_April_17 ) below which pertains to all images listed on Mark Jenkins under copyright review to see if this is still a necessary step. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eatgreens2 (talk • contribs) 03:44, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Tape giraffe.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Reasonable identification of sculptor as the photographer of his own work. See below
 * File:Tape giraffe.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Modern 3D sculpture in US - No Freedom of Panorama - Flickr is violating copyright  Ron h jones  (Talk) 20:36, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have direct contact with the artist. This is his flickr page. These are his photos that he took of his artwork. I asked him to update permission to "Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic" for these select photos before uploading. Please advise what steps I can take to keep these on this Wikipage. Thanks. '''--Eatgreens2 (talk) 02:30, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Storker metro.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Reasonable identification of sculptor as the photographer of his own work. See below
 * File:Storker metro.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Modern 3D sculpture in US - No Freedom of Panorama - Flickr is violating copyright  Ron h jones  (Talk) 20:36, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have direct contact with the artist. This is his flickr page. These are his photos that he took of his artwork. I asked him to update permission to "Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic" for these select photos before uploading. Please advise what steps I can take to keep these on this Wikipage. Thanks. '''--Eatgreens2 (talk) 02:31, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Flowersign.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep - reasonable permission from author of original work. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 23:12, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
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 * Modern 3D sculpture in US - No Freedom of Panorama - Flickr is violating copyright  Ron h jones  (Talk) 20:39, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have direct contact with the artist. This is his flickr page. These are his photos that he took of his artwork. I asked him to update permission to "Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic" for these select photos before uploading. Please advise what steps I can take to keep these on this Wikipage. Thanks. '''--Eatgreens2 (talk) 02:27, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Floater.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Reasonable identification of sculptor as the photographer of his own work. See below
 * File:Floater.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Modern 3D sculpture in US - No Freedom of Panorama - Flickr is violating copyright - I note it is only a small part of the image, but I don't think De minimis can apply as it is the main subject of the image.  Ron h jones  (Talk) 20:42, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have direct contact with the artist. This is his flickr page. These are his photos that he took of his artwork. I asked him to update permission to "Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic" for these select photos before uploading. Please advise what steps I can take to keep these on this Wikipage. Thanks. '''--Eatgreens2 (talk) 02:31, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Embed1.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Reasonable identification of sculptor as the photographer of his own work.
 * File:Embed1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Modern 3D sculpture in US - No Freedom of Panorama - Flickr is violating copyright - Again I note it is only a small part of the image, but I don't think De minimis can apply as it is the main subject of the image Ron h jones  (Talk) 20:43, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * What part of this is a sculpture? I'm guessing it's the guy who looks like he's taking a leak?  Is it actually a "sculpture" or is it clothing on a manikin?  If the latter, then I wouldn't think that would be copyrightable as it is utilitarian (you can take a photo of clothes, you can take a photo of a person wearing clothes, you can take a photo of an inanimate object wearing clothes).  In any event, I'm guessing/assuming that the guy carrying a lamp isn't a sculpture and it's just a guy carrying a lamp?  If so, an uncropped photo is not useful for any encyclopedic purpose.  --B (talk) 22:37, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * In case it is a manikin: See Commons:User:Elcobbola/Models. That's probably not OK. How old are these? --Stefan2 (talk) 23:28, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have direct contact with the artist. This is his flickr page. These are his photos that he took of his artwork. I asked him to update permission to "Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic" for these select photos before uploading. Please advise what steps I can take to keep these on this Wikipage. Thanks. '''--Eatgreens2 (talk) 02:32, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Eatgreens2, is there somewhere on the Flickr page that he identifies as the artist? Or somewhere on an official website for the work they he identifies the Flickr page as his own?  Linking to that statement from the image description pages should be fine.  Obviously, it's not a problem for the artist to make a derivative of his own work ... we just had no readily apparent way of knowing that this was the case.  The image description pages should clearly spell out that the photographer and the person who made the sculptures are the same person.  Also, it would be helpful if the description pages clearly spell out what I am looking at.  (In ,other words, what is the medium of the art?  Wood sculptures?  Clothing on manikins?). And is the guy walking by with a lamp part of the artwork or is he just some guy walking by with a lamp?  (The latter questions have nothing to do with licensing - it's just helpful for the image description page to convey necessary information to help the reader understand the image.) --B (talk) 12:16, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi B, I've made edits to Flickr, Mark Jenkins' website and Wiki pages so that everything should be in order. At http://www.flickr.com/photos/glazedparadise you'll now see the artist's name listed as the account. At http://xmarkjenkinsx.com/hi-res.html you'll find the link to this flickr page. On Wikipedia: File:Winnertakesall.jpg, File:Tape giraffe.jpg, File:Storker metro.jpg, File:Flowersign.jpg, File:Floater.jpg and File:Embed1.jpg have all been updated now identifying artist and photographer as the same person as well description info about the photo/sculpture. Following the flickr link on each of these pages you'll find this same information.--Eatgreens2 (talk) 20:18, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * At the bottom of the article Mark Jenkins, it says that the artist's home page is http://xmarkjenkinsx.com/ but and the infobox it says http://www.glazedparadise.com/ which redirects to the same website. The page http://xmarkjenkinsx.com/hi-res.html links to the Flickr account, so the Flickr account appears to belong to the artist. Assuming that the claims in the Wikipedia article about the website belonging to the artist are correct, it should be possible to keep all of these images. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:41, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Here is a link ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/20/sleeping-in-public-artist_n_327507.html ) to a Huffington Post article on the artist that references xmarkjenkinsx.com as his website. First paragraph last sentence, "For more from Mark, check out his site." his site links to xmarkjenkinsx.com. Also, after the last photo of the figure in a sleeping bag it states "All images republished with permission of the artist, for more go here." go here is a hyperlink to http://www.xmarkjenkinsx.com/outside.html ...another web interview with the artist that references his website at the end after the first section of text: http://t-squat.com/mark-jenkins-interview/ ...a Yahoo feature on the artist which links to xmarkjenkinsx.com http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/unplugged/ll-stuck-incredible-tape-art-175347025.html If you need any more documention let me know. Thanks.--Eatgreens2 (talk) 00:14, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Nia Ramadhani.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F3 by AnomieBOT ⚡  11:04, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Nia Ramadhani.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Permintaan_izin/kapanlagi.com does not show a suitable license. http://www.kapanlagi.com/ shows "All Rights Reserved" at bottom.  Ron h jones  (Talk) 20:55, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you speak Indonesian or are you going off of Google translate? They have a HUGE list of images from that site that need to be cleaned out if the Google translation is accurate. --B (talk) 01:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm speak Malay but I also understand Indonesian. I used google translate to translate it from Indonesian into English because I'm not fluent in English and can't speak English correctly.-- 法尔汉  Aplikasi  01:35, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Aplikasi. I will try to use simple English.  Please read http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy/id .  (The policy is also available in other languages.)  Wikipedia only uses images that are public domain or have a license like the GFDL or Creative Commons.  We do not allow images that are "non-commercial" or "Wikipedia-only" permissions.  I do not understand Indonesian - I am using Google translate to read the message on the Indonesian Wikipedia.  The Indonesian site seems to say that permission was granted only for Wikipedia to use these images.  Those are not allowed and need to be deleted.  I hope this is clear and helps you understand the issue.  Please feel free to ask if I can help explain anything. --B (talk) 01:47, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Marshanda.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F3 by AnomieBOT ⚡  11:04, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Marshanda.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Permintaan_izin/kapanlagi.com does not show a suitable license. http://www.kapanlagi.com/ shows "All Rights Reserved" at bottom.  Ron h jones  (Talk) 21:04, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Coyote Logistics Logo.png
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:04, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Coyote Logistics Logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This is a logo, Threshold of originality concern. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 21:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Probably copyrighted, but can't we just delete it as a logo for a company for which we don't have an article and thus don't need? --B (talk) 22:48, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete If it is a logo which is obviously a copyright violation and obviously doesn't qualify for fair use (for example because the company doesn't have an article), then I think that db-f9 is better. PUF may be OK if the logo has a chance of passing WP:NFCC (which is often the case if the company has an article). --Stefan2 (talk) 23:30, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Conor Clune.JPG
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:04, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Conor Clune.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * I'm skeptical that a 1920's image is the uploaders own work. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 21:13, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, we don't know whether it is a published image or not, so we can't just slap PD-US-1923-abroad on it. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:31, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Randy Pangalila.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F3 by AnomieBOT ⚡  11:04, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Randy Pangalila.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Permintaan_izin/kapanlagi.com does not show a suitable license. http://www.kapanlagi.com/ shows "All Rights Reserved" at bottom.  Ron h jones  (Talk) 21:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Cult4.jpg
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  15:09, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Cult4.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Source is listed as fcchs.com, but also as self. It can't be both. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:25, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It could be both if the uploader owns that website, but I think that we need OTRS to confirm that. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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