Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2013 January 18



File:The Economy of God LSM.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:The Economy of God LSM.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Appears to be a photo of a book cover. Eeekster (talk) 00:52, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I found this: "The legal rights for images generally lie with the photographer, not the subject. Simply re-tracing a copyrighted image or diagram does not necessarily create a new copyright—copyright is generated only by instances of "creativity", and not by the amount of labor which went into the creation of the work. Photographs of three-dimensional objects almost always generate a new copyright, though others may continue to hold copyright in items depicted in such photographs." The way I understood this was that a picture of a book was ok...

Is it just the copyright of the graphic design? And does it matter that a book is a free distribution book? Thanks. Sosthenes12 (talk) 01:32, 18 January 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12
 * Normally, a photo of a 2D object is not considered sufficiently creative to attract copyright protection. Maybe your photo has sufficient creativity because it shows the book as a solid object in some perspective, placed in foliage and with shadows. However, this is fine because you have licensed any use in such a way that Wikipedia is able to host your photo. The problem is with the copyright of the book cover itself which is a quite separate copyright from the photographer's. I'd be pretty sure it is indeed copyright despite free distribution. Could you lawfully duplicate the book and distribute these copies yourself? However, Wikipedia allows photographs of the covers of copyright books (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NFCI#Images 1. Cover art, and also see the footnote there). If there is an article specifically about this book the image would be allowed as Fair Use. Is that your intention? You would need to create a Fair Use Rationale. Also, in a more general article, the image might be allowed if the article specifically discussed the cover art itself (which frankly seems unlikely in this case). Thincat (talk) 21:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Got it. Can someone help me delete the picture? Sosthenes12 (talk) 21:46, 22 January 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12
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File:Normal Christian Life Tyndale.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Normal Christian Life Tyndale.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Photo of book cover. Eeekster (talk) 00:54, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I found this: "The legal rights for images generally lie with the photographer, not the subject. Simply re-tracing a copyrighted image or diagram does not necessarily create a new copyright—copyright is generated only by instances of "creativity", and not by the amount of labor which went into the creation of the work. Photographs of three-dimensional objects almost always generate a new copyright, though others may continue to hold copyright in items depicted in such photographs." The way I understood this was that a picture of a book was ok...

Is it just the copyright of the graphic design? And does it matter that a book is a free distribution book? Thanks. Sosthenes12 (talk) 01:32, 18 January 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12

Got it. Can someone help me delete the picture? Sosthenes12 (talk) 21:46, 22 January 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12
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File:Recovery Version Holy Bible.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Recovery Version Holy Bible.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Photo of a book cover. Eeekster (talk) 00:58, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I found this: "The legal rights for images generally lie with the photographer, not the subject. Simply re-tracing a copyrighted image or diagram does not necessarily create a new copyright—copyright is generated only by instances of "creativity", and not by the amount of labor which went into the creation of the work. Photographs of three-dimensional objects almost always generate a new copyright, though others may continue to hold copyright in items depicted in such photographs." The way I understood this was that a picture of a book was ok...

Is it just the copyright of the graphic design? And does it matter that a book is a free distribution book? Thanks. Sosthenes12 (talk) 01:32, 18 January 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12

Got it. Can someone help me delete the picture? Sosthenes12 (talk) 21:46, 22 January 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12
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File:The Normal Christian Life Tyndale.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:The Normal Christian Life Tyndale.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Photo of a book cover. Eeekster (talk) 00:58, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I found this: "The legal rights for images generally lie with the photographer, not the subject. Simply re-tracing a copyrighted image or diagram does not necessarily create a new copyright—copyright is generated only by instances of "creativity", and not by the amount of labor which went into the creation of the work. Photographs of three-dimensional objects almost always generate a new copyright, though others may continue to hold copyright in items depicted in such photographs."

Is it just the copyright of the graphic design? And does it matter that a book is a free distribution book? Thanks. Sosthenes12 (talk) 01:32, 18 January 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12

Got it. Can someone help me delete the picture? Sosthenes12 (talk) 21:46, 22 January 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12
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File:United States topics template on 1024x768 screen.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: keep. — ξ xplicit  01:37, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * File:United States topics template on 1024x768 screen.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Screen capture that lacks enough description to determine its copyright status. Eeekster (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess I need to mention it's a screenshot of a Wikipedia page..? CsDix (talk) 01:08, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Sculpture in front of Stortinget.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Sculpture in front of Stortinget.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * There's no freedom of panorama in Norway, so the sculpture enjoys copyright protection. Dianna (talk) 02:07, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I uploaded this image. I took the photo myself, and I published it myself to http://students.washington.edu/joyceag/summer2012trip/around_the_world_2.html, and I also own that. Could you elaborate on "There's no freedom of panorama in Norway, so the sculpture enjoys copyright protection." ?? Reubentg (talk)
 * Certainly. While you own the copyright to photographs you take, any two- or three-dimensional artworks (or even buildings and bridges, in some countries) also enjoy copyright protection in some countries. Freedom of panorama gives more information on this topic. According to that page, Norway has freedom of panorama for buildings only, and thus the sculpture is protected by copyright. This means the photo is a derivative work and you would require the permission of the artist to diplay its image on this wiki. -- Dianna (talk) 15:37, 18 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Kjersti Wexelsen Goksøyr is still alive. Photos of sculptures violate the copyright of the sculptors. You can't upload photos of this sculpture until 70 years after the death of the sculptor. See also Commons:Template:Drfop. See for example this article where it tells that the US post was fined by a sculptor for using a monument on stamps without permission, or this court ruling where an article in an Italian publication from 1999 was found to violate copyright by including photos of a house in Sardinia without permission from the architect. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:01, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay, go ahead and delete the file. I don't know how!Reubentg
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File:Khoesan-Plaits.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:07, 18 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Khoesan-Plaits.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Copyright notice in Exif data. Domain listed in the source does not resolve. Eeekster (talk) 02:34, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Joint Forces Command (JFC) Emblem.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F5 by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Joint Forces Command (JFC) Emblem.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * It both says that this is a freely licensed work by the uploader and that it is protected by a British crown copyright. British crown copyrights are non-free, see Non-free Crown copyright. Stefan2 (talk) 12:45, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This image is currently tagged as non-free. If there is a dispute with the rationale, please tag the image with dfu or list it at WP:Non-free content review. AnomieBOT ⚡ 11:08, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Humorous-God-Is-Dead-Japanese-Anime-Drawing-Reference.png

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Humorous-God-Is-Dead-Japanese-Anime-Drawing-Reference.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Derivative work of Haruhi Suzumiya (character). Stefan2 (talk) 12:48, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Richhpal Ram VC.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Keep, with the addition of a fair-use rationale. Dianna (talk) 15:42, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Richhpal Ram VC.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * It says that this is in the public domain because it is an anonymous British photo taken before 1942. This is not enough: Non-U.S. copyrights tells that British photos taken between 1926 and 1977, and published during this period, are protected by copyright in the United States for 95 years since publication, regardless of what British law says about the copyright status in the United Kingdom. See also URAA. Stefan2 (talk) 13:15, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I will change it to a fair use rationale. Please remove the deletion template Gbawden (talk) 14:02, 18 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Note: This image is currently tagged as non-free. If there is a dispute with the rationale, please tag the image with dfu or list it at WP:Non-free content review. AnomieBOT ⚡ 14:10, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Fas-cp-ja.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Fas-cp-ja.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * It seems that this is supposed to be a photo of the uploader. The copyright belongs to the photographer, not to the subject of the photo. Stefan2 (talk) 13:55, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Kawdia Seva.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by AnomieBOT ⚡  17:12, 18 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Kawdia Seva.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Probably taken from an advertisement, TV programme or something. Stefan2 (talk) 14:11, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Manish Sisodia.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Manish Sisodia.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:UPMYM convocation.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:State President sworn-in.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:GAU SEVA & ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:National President with L.N.Mittal.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:AIMYM National President with L.K.Advani.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Khusi Ke Pal.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Ambulance Inaguration.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).
 * File:Sudershan Patnaik.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This uploader seems to list everything as "own work by the uploader" but lots of files have turned out to be copyright violations. All remaining files have very varying resolution and no EXIF and are of very varying quality, so I suspect that they may also be copyright violations. Stefan2 (talk) 15:00, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Sudershan Patnaik.jpg needs to be deleted without fail, as it contains copies of three artworks which we do not have permission to diplay here. -- Dianna (talk) 02:48, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
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Kassal images

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The result of the discussion was: Already deleted -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  10:51, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

File:General Gorden P. Saville and Bentley Kassal, SavilleKassal.JPG

 * File:General Gorden P. Saville and Bentley Kassal, SavilleKassal.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * See Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:General Gorden P. Saville and Bentley Kassal, SavilleKassal.JPG. Stefan2 (talk) 18:47, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

File:Eleanor Roosevelt and Kassal, RooseveltKassal.JPG

 * File:Eleanor Roosevelt and Kassal, RooseveltKassal.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * See Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Eleanor Roosevelt and Kassal.jpg. Stefan2 (talk) 18:53, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

File:Kennedy and Kassal, KennedyKassal.JPG

 * File:Kennedy and Kassal, KennedyKassal.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * See Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kennedy and Kassal.jpg. Stefan2 (talk) 18:55, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

File:General Hap Arnold and Bentley Kassal, HapArnoldKassal.JPG

 * File:General Hap Arnold and Bentley Kassal, HapArnoldKassal.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * There is no way to verify that the US government claim is correct. I tried googling for the image but found nothing useful. Stefan2 (talk) 18:57, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The absence of of results from a google search does not prove your point. I have asked the original uploader, User:MjohnD to weigh in on this. --evrik (talk) 19:59, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * As a mater of interest, the uploader wrote this. The Bentley Kassal article says he is 95. So, further information might be forthcoming. Thincat (talk) 22:09, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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