Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2013 January 28



File:DVLA new.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Keep, with the addition of a fair-use rationale. Dianna (talk) 04:49, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * File:DVLA new.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * The coat of arms on this file is not a "simple geometric shape", as it does not have a FUR and is unused it should be deleted. LightGreenApple  talk to me  00:18, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This image is currently tagged as non-free. If there is a dispute with the rationale, please tag the image with dfu or list it at WP:Non-free content review. AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:05, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Articles of Incorporation Self Realization Fellowship Church.pdf

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Articles of Incorporation Self Realization Fellowship Church.pdf ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This is not a document made by the State of California (as required by PD-CAGov) but a document written by someone else which just happens to have been submitted to the State of California. Stefan2 (talk) 01:37, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


 * This file's corporate number is with the Department of State, Corporation Number 162095 and it is filed in the office of the Secretary of State of the State of California, MAR 29 1935, Frank C. Jordan, Secretary of State. This file (legal State of California document) was written from legal guidelines from the State of California and is held by the State of Calif.  It is available for anyone to copy and is public domain. Red Rose 13 (talk) 02:22, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


 * As per Stefan2 this is not PD just as a result of being submitted to the State of California, however it is likely to be PD by virtue of US copyright protection having never been applied for given the age. As it is unused and of limited possible encyclopedic use and there is a copy of the text at SRF Articles of Incorporation 1935 this is redundant so Delete. LightGreenApple  talk to me  04:37, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Argh! I missed that the document is almost 80 years old. Yes, this is probably in the public domain because of failure to comply with one or more copyright formalities. Would Wikisource want a scan of the document? If so, move to Commons. If not, delete. --Stefan2 (talk) 12:54, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Exhibit Trinitarians Church Metz.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Exhibit Trinitarians Church Metz.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * The artwork on the wall enjoys copyright protection, so we would need permission of the artist to host this image here. Dianna (talk) 04:23, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Lindsay Farris 2012 Publicity Shot.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Keep, with the addition of an OTRS ticket. Dianna (talk) 16:11, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Lindsay Farris 2012 Publicity Shot.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Likely work for hire, no indication that Lindsay Farris or agent has licensed this file for use in this way. LightGreenApple  talk to me  04:59, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I am Lindsay Farris' publicist - as seen on http://www.lindsayfarris.com in the contact page and also on his IMDB Pro account http://pro.imdb.com/name/nm1842413/agent. I also took the photograph. I do not know what you mean by 'likely work for hire' Alicecollins (talk) 06:49, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Alicecollins
 * OTRS permission has been received. OTRS agents can see -- SPhilbrick (Talk)  12:19, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
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File:Coal Miner Statue, town square, Ziegler, Illinois.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Nomination withdrawn; statue was very likely erected without a copyright notice. Dianna (talk) 06:03, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Coal Miner Statue, town square, Ziegler, Illinois.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).

Plus these files:
 * file:Reuben Soderstrom (1888-1970) statue, Streator, Illinois.jpg
 * file:Radium Girls statue dedication Sept 2011 Ottawa, Illinois.jpg
 * file:Diamond Illinois coal mine marker.jpg
 * file:Haymarket Martyrs Monument, Forest Home Cemetery, Forest Park, Illinois.jpg
 * file:LST7jj.jpg
 * file:Irish monumentjj.jpg


 * There's no freedom of panorama in the United States so the statues enjoy copyright protection. We would need permission of the creators of the statues for these files to be hosted here. Dianna (talk) 05:04, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Question How old are these statues? It looks as if some of them might be at least a few decades old. If any of the sculptures was erected without a copyright notice before 1978, then that sculpture is in the public domain. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:03, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I think you are wrong, Stefan. I think that rule only applies to text works, and these statues will be protected for the life of the creator plus 100 years. -- Dianna (talk) 15:31, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The definition of publication changed in 1978. If a statue was erected before 1978, accessible to the general public and without restrictions on photography, then the statue was published (requiring copyright notices and renewals). If it was erected in 1978, then it is unpublished unless multiple 3D copies of the statue were offered for sale to the general public (which never happens). Also, the copyright term for an unpublished sculpture is life+70 years (not life+100 years). See Commons:Commons:Public art and copyrights in the US. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:09, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This needs to be unbundled. We're obviously looking at works of wildly divergent ages, and we need to consider each separately. Mangoe (talk) 17:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Unbundling complete. This particular statue was dedicated in 1974. -- Dianna (talk) 20:18, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This one would need more information, such as the full inscription. If it says "© 1974 Name of sculptor", then it is protected by copyright. If not, then it is in the public domain. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:46, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * To quote from your link on sculpture under US copyright law," The fair use exception to the copyright law allows for use of a photograph of an artwork for educational, critical, scholarly, satirical, or newsworthy purposes—protecting schools and publications from infringement claims, for instance—and also requires a degree of “economic injury” to the copyright holder."  In this case this is a legitimate educational use of the image, and therefore, allowable.  Sculptures like these I am posting are not from nationally or internationally renowned artists who are participating in major exhibits.  These are sculptures that are community-funded to commemorate specific local events; in most cases, these communities and artists are eager for any recognition of their work beyond the local area. Plus this statue was created in 1970. --User:Mike Matejka 28 January 2013
 * Sorry, but this one fails WP:NFCC. Unless it was erected without a copyright notice, it can't be kept. --Stefan2 (talk) 10:57, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * As for this last image, I found a book at that says the plaque commemorates the miners.  (I also found http://www.zeigleril.com/pages/stories/Proud_Zeigler.htm which gives the name of the sculptor - Stephen Roben.)  I couldn't find anything that has a visible copy of the plaque.  From googling his other sculptures, I can't find that he was in the habit of adding copyright notices to his plaques, e.g. .  Does that prove that this one is free and clear?  No, but it at least gives us a good faith basis to accept it until proven otherwise. --B (talk) 15:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
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File:Reuben Soderstrom (1888-1970) statue, Streator, Illinois.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Reuben Soderstrom (1888-1970) statue, Streator, Illinois.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unbundling from coal miner statue above. Statue of Reuben Soderstrom was unveiled in 2012. Dianna (talk) 20:04, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Post-1977 so unpublished. Unfree until 70 years after the death of the sculptor. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:47, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Radium Girls statue dedication Sept 2011 Ottawa, Illinois.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Radium Girls statue dedication Sept 2011 Ottawa, Illinois.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unbundling from coal miner statue above. Radium girls statue was unveiled in 2011. Dianna (talk) 20:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Post-1977 so unpublished. Unfree until 70 years after the death of the sculptor. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * To quote from your link on sculpture under US copyright law," The fair use exception to the copyright law allows for use of a photograph of an artwork for educational, critical, scholarly, satirical, or newsworthy purposes—protecting schools and publications from infringement claims, for instance—and also requires a degree of “economic injury” to the copyright holder."  In this case this is a legitimate educational use of the image, and therefore, allowable.  Sculptures like these I am posting are not from nationally or internationally renowned artists who are participating in major exhibits.  These are sculptures that are community-funded to commemorate specific local events; in most cases, these communities and artists are eager for any recognition of their work beyond the local area. --User:Mike Matejka 28 January 2013
 * Sorry, but the statue is only mentioned briefly and the photo of it fails WP:NFCC. See also WP:NFLISTS. --Stefan2 (talk) 10:59, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Diamond Illinois coal mine marker.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: not deleted - in addition to the renewal issue, we can make out enough of it to tell that there's no copyright notice. --B (talk) 15:10, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Diamond Illinois coal mine marker.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unbundling from coal mine statue above. The Diamond Mine memorial was dedicated in 1926. Dianna (talk) 20:08, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep In addition to a copyright notice, this would need a copyright renewal after 28 years. I've never heard of any sculpture which has had its copyright renewed. There might be some, but there can't be many. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Haymarket Martyrs Monument, Forest Home Cemetery, Forest Park, Illinois.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:04, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Haymarket Martyrs Monument, Forest Home Cemetery, Forest Park, Illinois.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unbundled from Coal Miner statue above. The Haytmarket memorial was dedicated in 1893. Dianna (talk) 20:11, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep PD-1923 --Stefan2 (talk) 22:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This monument was erected in 1893 and its image has been reproduced world wide in numerous formats. I am a member of the Illinois Labor History Society, which holds the title to this monument and the land it is upon, and we have never sought copyright protected status because we desire that people learn the story of Chicago's Haymarket and the origins of May Day. User: Mike Matejka 28 January 2013.


 * Correction: Delete It says that the photo originally was posted at https://secure.flickr.com/photos/59632003@N07/5678091645 where it is listed as "all rights reserved". The user name may suggest that the Commons user is the same as the Flickr user, but we can't assume that the people are the same without evidence of that. See for example DMCA Planet.eco where Planet.eco sent a takedown notice for a file uploaded by Commons:User:Planet.eco. --Stefan2 (talk) 10:55, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Deleted. Someone else close this please, since I've never closed something here before.  Nyttend (talk) 05:23, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
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File:LST7jj.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * File:LST7jj.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unbundling from Coal Miners statue above. This memorial was dedicated in 2005. Dianna (talk) 20:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This is not a private artwork but a community artwork, with funds and donated labor from the local community to make it possible. To quote from your link on sculpture under US copyright law," The fair use exception to the copyright law allows for use of a photograph of an artwork for educational, critical, scholarly, satirical, or newsworthy purposes—protecting schools and publications from infringement claims, for instance—and also requires a degree of “economic injury” to the copyright holder."  In this case this is a legitimate educational use of the image, and therefore, allowable.  Sculptures like these I am posting are not from nationally or internationally renowned artists who are participating in major exhibits.  These are sculptures that are community-funded to commemorate specific local events; in most cases, these communities and artists are eager for any recognition of their work beyond the local area. --User:Mike Matejka 28 January 2013
 * Sorry, but the image violates WP:NFCC and WP:NFLISTS. --Stefan2 (talk) 11:01, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Irish monumentjj.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Irish monumentjj.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unbundling from Coal Miner statue above. The Irish Monument was dedicated in 2000. Dianna (talk) 20:14, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * As in my previous posts, this is a community funded effort to commemorate local history, not a private artwork. I served on the committee that raised the funds for this and our committee is very pleased whenever this monument and the related story is shared.User: Mike Matejka28 January 2013
 * Sorry, but this violates WP:NFCC and WP:NFLISTS. --Stefan2 (talk) 11:02, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Stefanolentinipiano.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Stefanolentinipiano.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Overwritten file. The current version appears at numerous place on the Internet (e.g. http://www.gettyimages.es/music/artists/84256-stefano-lentini) but only seems to appear in a smaller resolution. Stefan2 (talk) 13:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:GDR VP OF8 Generaloberst.pdf

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * File:GDR VP OF8 Generaloberst.pdf ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 14:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Med Merit NPA mr-B-bs.pdf

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


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 * Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 14:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Med Merit NPA mr-B.pdf

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Med Merit NPA mr-B.pdf ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 14:49, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Med BHiA mr-B-rev.pdf
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Med BHiA mr-B-rev.pdf ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 14:49, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Former USMC Rifle Marksmanship Badges.png
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Author added a valid license. De728631 (talk) 16:42, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Former USMC Rifle Marksmanship Badges.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No licence for the photo. The licence only applies to the underlying badges. Stefan2 (talk) 14:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I created a line-drawing of these badges, which meet the needs of the article I am working on, and have uploaded it to the page in question. This should address your concerns. --McChizzle (talk) 01:35, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Former US Army Marksman Button.png
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Author added a different image with valid license. De728631 (talk) 16:46, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Former US Army Marksman Button.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No licence for the photo. The licence only applies to the underlying badges. Stefan2 (talk) 14:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I created a line-drawing of this button, which meet the needs of the article I am working on, and have uploaded them to the page in question. This should address your concerns. --McChizzle (talk) 21:07, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Former US Army Pistol Marksmanship Badges.png
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Author added a different image with valid license. De728631 (talk) 16:47, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Former US Army Pistol Marksmanship Badges.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No licence for the photo. The licence only applies to the underlying badges. Stefan2 (talk) 14:52, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I created a line-drawing of these badges, which meet the needs of the article I am working on, and have uploaded it to the page in question. This should address your concerns. --McChizzle (talk) 01:35, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Former US Army Artillery Qualification Badge.png
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Author added a different image with valid license. De728631 (talk) 16:49, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Former US Army Artillery Qualification Badge.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No licence for the photo. The licence only applies to the underlying badges. Stefan2 (talk) 14:52, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I created a line-drawing of this badge, which meet the needs of the article I am working on, and have uploaded them to the page in question. This should address your concerns. --McChizzle (talk) 21:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:JROTC Marksmanship Qualification Badges.png
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Author added a different image with valid license. De728631 (talk) 16:50, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * File:JROTC Marksmanship Qualification Badges.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No licence for the photo. The licence only applies to the underlying badges. Stefan2 (talk) 14:53, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I created line-drawings of these badges, which meet the needs of the article I am working on, and have uploaded them to the page in question. This should address your concerns. --McChizzle (talk) 20:42, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:Naval Aviation Observer (Radar) Insignia.png
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Author added a different image with valid license. De728631 (talk) 16:52, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Naval Aviation Observer (Radar) Insignia.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No licence for the photo. The licence only applies to the underlying badges. Stefan2 (talk) 14:54, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've reverted the file to the original version posted by a blogger for public consumption. These "blogged" images have been acceptable to Wikipedia Administrators in the past; so I hope it passes your test. It can be found on the page in question. --McChizzle (talk) 21:11, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have searched the source website and unable to confirm that the material posted there has been released to the public domain or under license. -- Dianna (talk) 19:52, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Those posting on the public forum are for public consumption. Those posts on the private forum are for forum members only, which we cannot see.  It is becoming obvious to me that this is not acceptable to the administrators; so I took the time to create a sketch of the badge and colorized it for the page it is intended to support.  This drawing has been uploaded to the page in question. --McChizzle (talk) 22:48, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
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File:DJ Kaisei using Serato Scratch Live 2.jpg
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 * File:DJ Kaisei using Serato Scratch Live 2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).

Hi can you help its my picture i own it its the same file its free to use thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaisei (talk • contribs) 2013-02-01T06:40:56
 * Is the licence claim really valid? I suspect that this is identical to File:DJ Kaisei using Serato Live Scratch 2.jpg which was deleted for violating the non-free content criteria. Stefan2 (talk) 16:27, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete; It's the same file. When they uploaded it the first time, it was brought in as a non-free file, sourced to Facebook. -- Dianna (talk) 19:44, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You need to contact OTRS about that. See WP:IOWN. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:44, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
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File:DJ Burger using The Pacemaker.jpg
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 * File:DJ Burger using The Pacemaker.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).

Hi can you help its my picture i own it its the same file its free to use thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaisei (talk • contribs) 06:41, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Is the licence claim really valid? I suspect that this is identical to File:DJ BURGER USING TONIUM PACEMAKER.jpg which was deleted for violating the non-free content criteria. Stefan2 (talk) 16:27, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete; It's the same file. When they uploaded it the first time, it was brought in as a non-free file, sourced to Facebook. -- Dianna (talk) 19:46, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You need to contact OTRS about that. See WP:IOWN. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:44, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
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