Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2014 February 23



File:Sectional drawing of Hulsebos-Hesselman engine.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:03, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Sectional drawing of Hulsebos-Hesselman engine.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * 1938 image - out of copyright in UK, but at URAA it would have still been in copyright, so US copyright was restored.  Ron h jones  (Talk) 00:45, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Why, yet again, does URAA mean deletion rather than NFC? Andy Dingley (talk) 00:52, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:PUF is for files which may be unfree, although the outcome, should a file be determined to be unfree, doesn't have to be deletion. That said, this seems to be a violation of WP:NFCC. See for example WP:NFC §4. --Stefan2 (talk) 01:05, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Your personal actions have already been to delete hundreds of my uploads, many of which were from this same source and of similar subject matter, without any thought given to NFC. Once again, you claim that an image fails NFCC#1, presumably because it can easily be retaken as a free image. Would you care to suggest just where an example of this obscure engine from 70 years ago might still be found, so that we can photograph it?
 * Incidentally, in reference to WP:NFC §4 that you cite, this isn't a map. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:08, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This is a technical drawing, which essentially is a "map" of an engine, so there is no difference. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:23, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Bearing in mind all the above, I am trying to establish contact with any "remnant" company associated with the original publisher of the file. This may lead me to someone (legal practice) who can clarify the issue. I note that "reasonable attempts" to discover copyright must be made and I have made an assumption or two in the hope that the drawing can be published. So I will establish a trail of "reasonable attempts" and see if this leaves us any the wiser on this subject or better placed legally. In the meantime, if the drawing has to be "published with a proviso" then I think we can live with that. Note also that the image was scanned from the book (free photo?)( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 23:14, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment This is not a map, it has not been scanned from an atlas, it doesn't illustrate any region depicted, and there is a difference. Discussion should take place on a rational basis. Thincat (talk) 14:46, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The comparison to a "map" shouldn't be taken that hard - I believe the idea Stefan was going for was that, like most maps, this is a drawing (which took creative effort, and thus copyrighted) of uncopyrightable data - the concept of the engine. Someone can recreate a similar drawing of the engine and license that in a free manner and it would be a free replacement for this. Thus, NFCC#1 does apply here, unless the PD-US aspect can be proven out (PD-UK has been, but en.wiki requires the PD-US at minimum to be considered free). --M ASEM (t) 15:40, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree with the nomination. Without further evidence (e.g. some types of publication in the US), the illustration is probably in copyright in the US. So, to stay here, the image requires a valid fair use rationale. I can't see any a priori reason why it would be impossible to create one. Thincat (talk) 15:42, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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File:P226 Money L lores.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:P226 Money L lores.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * The uploader blanked the page, but I'm not sure why. I found this copy which based on the "Last-Modified" HTTP header predates our copy by about 15 minutes. Stefan2 (talk) 01:03, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:Jaggy MacB.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Jaggy MacB.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Derivative work of non-free bee. Stefan2 (talk) 01:17, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:Dileepettan.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Dileepettan.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * It says: "Previously published: It was put in Dileep's official site DileepOnline.com"

This means that we need OTRS permission. See WP:CONSENT. Stefan2 (talk) 01:27, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Notes it was taken from blog and cropped see this, and the blog itself it's a Non-free content so delete.-- AldNon Ucallin?☎ 00:37, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:High sweden bridge.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:High sweden bridge.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Missing source. Stefan2 (talk) 01:45, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:Hamiltonaerial.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Hamiltonaerial.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Missing source. Stefan2 (talk) 01:45, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:Belltones2.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Belltones2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Dubious uploaders own work. Is a scan of a book or pamphlet. Unknown who copyright holder is. -- TLSuda (talk) 04:53, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:Heidelberg University Old Assembly Hall.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:03, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Heidelberg University Old Assembly Hall.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * It is dubious whether the permission allows derivative works. There is also no evidence that the image is available under GFDL. Stefan2 (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The press files of the Heidelberg University website are free to use material. -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 13:36, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The press files of the Heidelberg University website are free to use material. The website states: "The Communications and Marketing Department’s photo pool offers you visual materials from Heidelberg University for general and press requests. The images can be downloaded and freely used as long as the source is cited. Higher-resolution versions as well as other images are available on request." See http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/presse/bildarchiv.en.html Fred Plotz (talk) 08:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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 * Seriously, WTF? Why the hell were these images still deleted? What's wrong with you guys? -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 00:44, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

File:Max Weber Haus.jpg

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 * File:Max Weber Haus.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * It says that the uploader is the copyright holder, but it also says that the image comes from another website. No evidence of permission. Stefan2 (talk) 15:48, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The press files of the Heidelberg University website are free to use material. The website states: "The Communications and Marketing Department’s photo pool offers you visual materials from Heidelberg University for general and press requests. The images can be downloaded and freely used as long as the source is cited. Higher-resolution versions as well as other images are available on request." See http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/presse/bildarchiv.en.html Fred Plotz (talk) 08:36, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:Newcamp11.jpg

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 * File:Newcamp11.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Contradicting copyright statement. The watermark suggests that the copyright holder is a university, but the uploader added a tag suggesting that the uploader is the copyright holder. Stefan2 (talk) 15:49, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The press files of the Heidelberg University website are free to use material. The website states: "The Communications and Marketing Department’s photo pool offers you visual materials from Heidelberg University for general and press requests. The images can be downloaded and freely used as long as the source is cited. Higher-resolution versions as well as other images are available on request." See http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/presse/bildarchiv.en.html Fred Plotz (talk) 08:36, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:Access Control Technology (ACT) logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Kept - changed to PD-textlogo   Ron h jones  (Talk) 22:32, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Access Control Technology (ACT) logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No Permission, Nothing at OTRS for over 30 days  Ron h jones  (Talk) 15:52, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This looks like PD-textlogo. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:17, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:Caroline O'Donnell at PS1's Warm-Up, Summer 2013 by Taji Ameen.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F11 by AnomieBOT ⚡  00:01, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Caroline O& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * No Permission, Nothing at OTRS for over 30 days  Ron h jones  (Talk) 15:54, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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OTRS pending since October

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The result of the discussion was: Files without OTRS permission have been removed. --  TLSuda  (talk) 14:55, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
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These files have been tagged with OTRS pending and the file information pages haven't been edited since October last year. As this was several months ago, it may indicate that permission never was sent to OTRS. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:08, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


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File:Dan Bilzerian photo by Damir Karamujic.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:03, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Dan Bilzerian photo by Damir Karamujic.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * This has been tagged with OTRS received and the file was last edited in December. Since that was a long time ago, it could mean that sufficient permission never was received by OTRS. Stefan2 (talk) 18:17, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:CashAndWyldeCherLloyd.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  00:01, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:02, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:03, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  00:01, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Kept OTRS.   Ron h jones  (Talk) 22:53, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
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