Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2014 January 26



File:View.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: newer version deleted, older version restored. 28bytes (talk) 20:52, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * File:View.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Overwritten file. According to User:Cube00, the current revision is a copyright violation from . That URL goes to a lower resolution image, but at the same time, the server returns a "Last-Modified" HTTP header telling that the upload to that server predates the Wikipedia upload. Stefan2 (talk) 16:30, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Robert Inigo Tasker.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Robert Inigo Tasker.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * PD-URAA tag is incorrect, this was taken in 1927 so it could not have entered the public domain in the source country (UK) before 1996. January  ( talk ) 16:52, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * A photo taken in 1927 would have come out of copyright by 1st January 1978. In 1995, copyright was revived for many earlier photos, but allowing free use and no charge if reasonable efforts could not locate the copyright owner.Rjm at sleepers (talk) 10:12, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The UK copyright having being revived in 1995 makes it copyrighted on the URAA date (1 January 1996 for the UK), so it has a restored copyright in the US making it copyrighted for 95 years after first publication. January  ( talk ) 13:26, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * As it seems that this copyrighted image can only be used with a FUR, and that the uploader does not seem to want to involve themselves in this matter, I have provided this myself. Graemp (talk) 13:51, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The FUR will need an WP:NFCC justification, if you've already searched for a free image I would suggest making a note of this under "Replaceability". January  ( talk ) 14:16, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This image is currently tagged as non-free. If there is a dispute with the rationale, please tag the image with dfu or list it at WP:Non-free content review. AnomieBOT ⚡ 14:26, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:Churchill 1st 1951 Test against France.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * There is no evidence that this was first published in Australia. If it was first published in Australia, then it is unfree in the United States as it wasn't taken before 1946. Stefan2 (talk) 17:01, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Lt Col Robert Tilsley.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Lt Col Robert Tilsley.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * It says that this was in the public domain in the United Kingdom in 1996, which requires that 1952 (photographer's year of death) was more than 70 years before 1996, which is clearly not the case. Invalid copyright template.

There is no evidence of publication, and the text on the file information page suggests that this was a personal photograph. Unless the photograph was published before 1923, it is protected by copyright in the United States. Stefan2 (talk) 17:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * This is one of many UK photos that came out of copyright after 50 years, but which returned to copyright in 1995 with relatively free use.
 * Whether it was in the public domain in the United Kingdom in 1994 or not is irrelevant. The problem is that it was copyrighted in the United Kingdom in 1996, which makes it copyrighted in the United States for 95 years from publication. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:04, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for noting this incorrectly uploaded photo. I did not fill in the copyright details correctly, mostly because I struggled with working out which template to use. I'm first to admit I am no copyright expert and am new to Wikipedia. The photographer was a New Zealander, Herman Schmidt who died in 1959. The photo was possibly taken in Auckland in 1919, not London in 1918 as I first thought. Hence by NZ Copyright Law, as of 1 Jan 2014, this photograph is automatically in the public domain. The photograph was in the possession of the subject's mother and is now owned by the subject's (son) next of kin. It was with his permission that I scanned the photo and it is with his blessing that the photo becomes part of the public domain. It is not a particularly private photograph and is typical of WW1 NZ soldiers to be formally photographed as such. It is already published by the Auckland Libraries Heritage Centre and DigitalNZ who seemed to have obtained the glass plate negative from the photographer's studio in 1970 after he died. I do not know where the date 1996 came from - did I say that? I had planned to use it on a page which is still in draft form, mostly because i am struggling with uploading images. Stefan2 can you advise how/if I can proceed, which template to use and evidence I need to collect? I also have two other photos I want to use which were published in newspapers in 1916 and 1926 approx.Pn4Ls (talk) 23:34, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The 1996 year comes from the copyright law of the United States. Unless the photograph was published before 1923, the photograph is copyrighted in the United States (expiration 95 years after publication if first published 1923-77, in 2048 if first published 1978-2002 and in 2023 if first published after 2002). There is currently no indication of when the photograph was first published. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:13, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
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File:O'Connell St, Limerick City, 1960's.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * Invalid copyright tag: PD-URAA can't be used for Irish photos taken after 1925. Stefan2 (talk) 17:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Portrait of Robert Septimus Gardiner.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Portrait of Robert Septimus Gardiner.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * It says that this was scanned from a family album, so there is a high possibility that this is unpublished. PD-URAA can only be used for images published before 1 March 1989, so unless the uploader can demonstrate that the photograph was published before that date, the copyright tag is invalid.

If it was first published when it was uploaded, then the uploader has to provide evidence that PD-US-unpublished is satisfied. The man died in 1939 and he looks old, so the terms in that template might not be satisfied for this photograph. Stefan2 (talk) 17:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Referee and captains 2nd 1951 Test against France.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Referee and captains 2nd 1951 Test against France.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * There is no evidence that this was first published in Australia. PD-Australia should only be used for photographs which were first published in Australia.

If it was first published in France, Australia or New Zealand (which seem to be the countries involved in the match), then the photograph is unfree in the United States; see Not-PD-US-URAA. Stefan2 (talk) 17:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Rosener himmler.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * If you wish to use PD-URAA for a German photograph, then you need to show that the photograph was created before 1926, and additionally several other things. Considering that the photograph shows high-ranking Nazis, it is unlikely that the photograph was created before 1926. Stefan2 (talk) 17:21, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Rosener 171.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * If you wish to use PD-URAA for a German photograph, then you need to show that the photograph was created before 1926, and additionally several other things. Considering that the photograph shows a high-ranking Nazi, it is unlikely that the photograph was created before 1926. Stefan2 (talk) 17:21, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Sir w herringham.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * There is no evidence that this was published before 1926. Unless it was published before 1926, it is unfree in the United States. Stefan2 (talk) 17:26, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Under UK law as it was at the time, the photo went out of copyright on or before 1st January 1987. I believe this made it public domain in the US at that date and it was not copyright in either the UK or US on the 1st March 1989 (the operative date for the Berne Convention). Since the work was not copyright on 1st March 1989, I believe it is not covered by the Berne Convention or by 17 USC 104A which implimented the convention in the US. UK copyright for this photo and many others was revived in 1995 by a change in UK law. However the copyright owner is unknown and their name and address “cannot by reasonable inquiry be ascertained.” As a result, under UK law, "anyone can use the revived copyright photograph, without permission, and without any obligation to pay money." Rjm at sleepers (talk) 08:05, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Whether it was in the public domain in the United Kingdom in 1989 or not is irrelevant. The problem is that it was copyrighted in the United Kingdom in 1996, which makes it copyrighted in the United States for 95 years from publication. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:04, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:SITC39 Swansea tramcar.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * This seems to be a Welsh photograph. Welsh photographs are normally unfree in the United States unless published before 1926. There is no evidence that this was published before 1926. Stefan2 (talk) 17:27, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * This is another photo that went out of copyright and returned - see above.Rjm at sleepers (talk) 10:16, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Whether it was in the public domain in the United Kingdom in 1994 or not is irrelevant. The problem is that it was copyrighted in the United Kingdom in 1996, which makes it copyrighted in the United States for 95 years from publication. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:05, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Suzanne Aubert Sitting in a chair 1925.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * It says that the photograph was taken by Joseph Zachariah, possibly this guy who seems to have died in 1965. As he had not yet been dead for at least 50 years in 1996, the copyright tag is invalid. Unfree in the United States until 95 years after the photograph was first published. Stefan2 (talk) 17:38, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Udsrektor1955.jpg

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 * We are missing evidence that the photograph was taken before 1926, which is one of several requirements for using PD-URAA for German photographs. Stefan2 (talk) 17:44, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Van Dyck Belgrade.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * We are missing permission from the person who took the photograph of the 3D frame and the background. Stefan2 (talk) 17:45, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:When russia bombs germany A.J Ferris.jpg

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 * There is no evidence that the person who created the cover died before 1926, which is a requirement for using PD-URAA for British things like this. Stefan2 (talk) 17:47, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:King kong esp.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:King kong esp.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * There is no evidence that the person who drew the cover died before 1952, which is a requirement for using PD-URAA for Mexican images like this. Stefan2 (talk) 17:50, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Leader-Post on Hamilton Street in the 1950s.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Leader-Post on Hamilton Street in the 1950s.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * There is no evidence that this was taken before 1946, which is a requirement for using PD-URAA for Canadian photographs. Stefan2 (talk) 18:10, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:First Corner tube boiler installed in a truck.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:First Corner tube boiler installed in a truck.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * There is no evidence that the photographer died before 1926, which is a requirement for using PD-URAA for German photographs. Stefan2 (talk) 18:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Frank Hawks.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Frank Hawks.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).

The original photograph is found at both at the Library of Congress and Minneapolis Institute of the Arts as part of a bequest from photographer Edward Streichan by direction of Joanna T. Steichen and George Eastman to be available as a public domain photograph. 50.71.14.251 (talk) 20:37, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * There is no evidence that this was first published outside the United States, which is one of many requirements for PD-URAA. There is also no evidence that the photograph is in the public domain for some other reason. Stefan2 (talk) 18:15, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't realize I wasn't logged in.FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:39, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * How can I find it through the Library of Congress or the Minneapolis Institute of Arts? The source link goes to a Google search which points to a page reading "Sorry, invalid Object." --Stefan2 (talk) 23:31, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Only thing I can say is that the original sites must have changed; there is a similar image at <https://sites.google.com/site/richardarthurnorton/frankhawksbibliography> and <http://www.thisdayinaviation.com/12-august-1930/>. The photograph may need to be relabelled as a historically important photograph. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 02:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * According to [//collections.artsmia.org/index.php?page=detail&id=23325], Steichen's estate claims copyright on this photo. January  ( talk ) 14:23, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Obviously the image is no longer a public domain image. If it is to be retained, it might have to be re-classified. OTOH, there are now many more images of Frank Hawks available as replacements via the San Diego Air and Space Archives. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:37, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * See Frank Hawks for a change in the image. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 15:05, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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File:Arvind.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Arvind.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Upon uploading new revisions of the file, User:Arvindchaubey27 and User:Mails2arvind didn't alter the file information page in any way, so the source and copyright status of their uploads is unknown. We therefore only have copyright information for the initial upload by User:Arvind nagavelli; the rest of the files have to be deleted as unsourced and unlicensed. Stefan2 (talk) 19:28, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. The original upload was obviously intended as a userpage image for User:Arvind nagavelli, but he's not using it and hasn't edited since 2007. User:Mails2arvind (one of the users who uploaded over it) is using it, as is User:Arvindky who is possibly an alternate account of this user, but if we revert back to the original upload they will have a photo of a different person on their userpages. January  ( talk ) 14:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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