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File:The Audible Doctor performing.jpg

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 * Visible watermark implies this is a publicity shot. Eeekster (talk) 01:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:The Audible Doctor performing.jpg

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 * Visible watermark implies company publicity shot. Eeekster (talk) 02:00, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Sattruck.jpg

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 * File:Sattruck.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unclear whether uploader is copyright holder of photo. Kelly  hi! 11:41, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Skjold kaares til konge.jpg

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 * File:Skjold kaares til konge.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unable to verify copyright status. Kelly  hi! 12:10, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * See this link. It says in Norwegian that the pictures may be used freely, but they prefer that we link to them (as I have):
 * Hvem kan bruke bildene? Bildene kan brukes fritt. Vi ønsker at følgende oppgis: Bildene er hentet fra prosjektet "De gamle undervisningsplansjene" ved Senter for pedagogiske tekster, Høgskolen i Vestfold, på http://www-lu.hive.no/plansjer
 * Please use google translate to verify if you don't understand Norwegian, or ask a Scandinavian editor to verify.--Berig (talk) 13:58, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

I used Google Translate and the license doesn't seem to mention commercial use or derivative works. Hop on Bananas (talk) 17:25, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Ssrg-and-beer-squad.jpg

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 * Unclear if uploader is copyright holder. Kelly  hi! 12:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Smotrytsky meletij.jpg

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 * Insufficient source information given to verify copyright status. Kelly  hi! 12:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Vladimirskiy Sobor Vintage Photo.jpg

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 * File:Vladimirskiy Sobor Vintage Photo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Insufficient source/authorship/publication information given to verify copyright status. Kelly  hi! 13:01, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Bolsheviks enter odessa.jpg

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 * Insufficient source/author/publication information to verify license. Kelly  hi! 13:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Khresch XIXcent.jpg

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 * Insufficient author/publication information given to verify license. Kelly  hi! 13:05, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Leon Sedov.jpg

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 * File:Leon Sedov.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Insufficient source information to verify given license. Kelly  hi! 13:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Kurbas.jpg

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 * Insufficient source information to verify given license. The linked source contains the image but has no author or publication information. Kelly  hi! 13:17, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Zhukov reads capitulation act.jpg

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 * File:Zhukov reads capitulation act.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Insufficient sourcing information to verify given license. The linked source has the image but no information about it. Kelly  hi! 13:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Strozier pc5919.jpg

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 * Source page has no information on copyright status. Kelly  hi! 14:38, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Manatee County Public Library System Logo.jpg

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 * Bogus PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 15:31, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:The Most Rev Robert J Coyle DD.jpg

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 * Bogus PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 15:34, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Aquamanile in the Form of Aristotle and Phyllis - Metropolitan Museum of Art.jpg
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 * File:Aquamanile in the Form of Aristotle and Phyllis - Metropolitan Museum of Art.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * The do not move to Commons template suggests that this is under a non-commercial licence, which is inconsistent with the public domain claim. No evidence that this is freely licensed or in the public domain. Stefan2 (talk) 15:35, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Terms and conditions at the Met are perfectly clear for OASC content:
 * Images of works of art that the Museum believes to be in the public domain which are identified as Open Access for Scholarly Content (OASC) Icon on the Site may be downloaded for limited non-commercial, educational, and personal use only, or for fair use as defined in the United States copyright laws. In addition, authorized non-commercial uses for such images shall include scholarly publications in any media.
 * My bolding. The "do not move" is because it doesn't authorize commercial use, which is part of the Commons deal (but not the local deal). Bottom line - the Museum says it believes it is the public domain and authorizes its use for non-commercial scholarly publication in any media (thus Wikipedia). Who are you to say otherwise? KIC 8462852 (talk) 19:55, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * See WP:IUP - "Note that images that are licensed for use only on Wikipedia, or only for non-commercial or educational use, or under a license that doesn't allow for the creation of modified/derived works, are unsuitable." (my bolding). WP:F3 makes images such as these eligible for speedy deletion. Kelly  hi! 20:00, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It has not been freely licensed (Wikipedia's bolding) where you quote from. It is in the public domain (next one down). The Met says it is and authorises it. What a shame you are going to delete it. Do not bother me again with this. I am not interested further. KIC 8462852 (talk) 20:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Why has Kelly deleted this image from Power of Women when this discussion has apparently not been closed? Is Kelly an administrator? Is this within his powers? When I said I was not interested above, I meant I was not interested in debating this further with Kelly. I would still like to see the image illustrate the article. I am aware that the Wikimedia Foundation champions Open Access. It strikes me as curious in the circumstances that Wikipedia will not host Open Access Scholarly Content. All those wonderful images at the Met? What a shame. KIC 8462852 (talk) 00:47, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Possibly the confusion arises from the object being public domain. However the photograph is not: per the terms and conditions, The text, images, trademarks, data, audio files, video files and clips, software, documentation or other information contained in these files, and other content on the Websites (collectively, the "Materials") are proprietary to the Museum or its licensors. The Museum retains all rights, including copyright, in the Materials. Note The Materials are made available for limited non-commercial, educational, and personal use only, or for fair use as defined in the United States copyright laws. The image should therefore be deleted. BethNaught (talk) 08:24, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Well Beth, with respect you are simply reading the wrong bit. I do get that about the photograph (how we all get that in Visual Arts at Wikipedia!) But the Museum has tagged this image with its OASC (Open Access for Scholarly Content), the whole image and nothing but the image. It is there, honest, go and look. And in its terms and conditions it expressly authorizes the non-commercial use of such images in any media for educational purposes. Because the authorization is for non-commercial use, it can not go to Commons. But there is no reason within its terms and condition why it can not be reproduced in Wikipedia, surely the canonical example of non-commercial educational media on the internet. It is not the museum putting difficulties in the way here, but a section of the Wikipedia community. What can the problem be? Why are you debating the niceties of copyright law when the museum's intent is so clear. The same with the Paul Getty Institution I know of and I am sure there are many other art institutes with the same commitment to OASC. As I mention, the Wikimedia Foundation itself is one such.
 * But Beth, and everyone here, I do not have the time or inclination for the drama defending this. Life is too short. If Open Access Scholarly Content can not be hosted on Wikipedia because of copyright scruples raised here in this forum, so be it. How strange, and how sad. On our planet we organize things better ... :) KIC 8462852 (talk) 21:52, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * You are quite simply wrong. Per Image use policy, images used must be freely licensed. This means they must be allowed to be edited, redistributed and used for commercial purposes. It it a fundamental pillar of Wikipedia that we produce a freely licensed encyclopaedia and non-commercial licenses are not free, and it is beyond the scope of a deletion discussion to explain why this is the case. I suggest you do some background reading about free licensing. Unless this image can be used as fair use, which nobody appears to be claiming, it cannot be used on Wikipedia. BethNaught (talk) 22:05, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * No Beth. It is a public domain image as per the discussion above. The museum recognizes it as public domain and has tagged it as such. This is all very Kuhnian and what I was politely and diplomatically trying to indicate above is that you can include me out. Of course I do not want to go and do some background reading about free licensing. You can not be serious. Please do not bother (ping) me again with it. Cheers. KIC 8462852 (talk) 22:16, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I shall not ping you, but you are misinterpreting the Museum. Images of works of art that the Museum believes to be in the public domain which are identified as Open Access for Scholarly Content (OASC) Icon on the Site (my italics) refers to the works of art being in the public domain, not the images of them. If the images were public domain the Museum could not exert any restrictions on their use. BethNaught (talk) 22:22, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Tomas brenning wiki.jpg
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 * Web resolution, no metadata. Sole image contribution by uploader, no evidence they are copyright holder. Kelly  hi! 15:56, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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 * Unclear whether uploader is copyright holder. Kelly  hi! 17:53, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:03, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
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 * Unable to verify image source/license. Kelly  hi! 18:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Vgl kitchener.jpg
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 * Unable to verify source/license. Kelly  hi! 18:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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File:Westcott rc05025.jpg
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 * Source doesn't have any information on authorship or copyright status. Kelly  hi! 20:10, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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