Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2015 September 9



File:BM High Founders.jpg

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 * File:BM High Founders.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Uploader unlikely to be copyright holder. Kelly  hi! 05:12, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:Ashwin Ram.jpg

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 * File:Ashwin Ram.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Appears to be promo photo from web, no evidence uploader is copyright holder. Kelly  hi! 05:14, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:VVLL Kites-10.jpg

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 * Promo photo - no evidence uploader is copyright holder. Kelly  hi! 05:56, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:Reeves Mothballs (2).jpg

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 * Unable to verify source/license. Kelly  hi! 06:20, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:EDMPrincess.jpg

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 * This looks like an album cover. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:02, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:HillaryonClimateChange.png

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 * Threshold of originality exceeded Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:30, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:Goodall Cup Replica Cup 2014.png

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The result of the discussion was: (Non Admin Closure) Withdrawn. The uploader provided additional confirmation. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:48, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Goodall Cup Replica Cup 2014.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Work of craftsmanship with separate copyright. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:38, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Reply from orion_2012 Please delete your allegation immediately. This is an image I took of a trophy that MY team won, on a team I provide media for and within a league that I provide media for. I am the copyright holder of this image and just because YOU may not understand an aspect about the copyright of this image does not mean that I as the copyright holder am required to explain that process to you.

Also you may wish to read the following:

Artistic craftsmanship

"If a work is not a sculpture, it may still qualify for copyright protection as a work of artistic craftsmanship. The types of product that may fall into this category include "handicrafted jewellery tiles, pots, stained-glass windows, wrought-iron gates, hand-knitted jumpers, and crocheted doilies" (Bentley and Sherman summarising the case law in Intellectual Property Law (Second Edition) p74)."

"Unlike most types of copyright works, the courts must adjudge a product as "artistic" before awarding protection under this heading."

"In the most influential case on the question, Henscher v Restawile Upholstery, a prototype of a chair was found not to be artistic, and was therefore unworthy of protection. However, different judges have different views about what is or is not artistic, and the cases following Henscher are not always helpful."

So the onus is upon you to determine whether a sports trophy that belongs to a league that I provide media for would be classified under "Artistic craftsmanship" and furthermore a court would adjudge this sports trophy "artistic" (which is required before awarding any separate protection). Then and only then can you accurately make your allegation, until then you haven't any premise to make such allegation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orion 2012 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn per analysis presented :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:41, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:NIA Bunny Fountain 053109.JPG

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 * File:NIA Bunny Fountain 053109.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Although the original fountain is from 1895, there was a substantial redesign in 1995 which added the rabbits/mushrooms/cattails on top of the fountain, likely creating a new copyright. Source - Kelly  hi! 19:41, 9 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I released this image, that I took myself, into the public domain. I'm confused. Are you saying that the fountain has somehow been copyrighted? I'd like to see that.Tomticker5 (talk) 21:06, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, under the copyright law of the United States, all artistic works automatically have a copyright, and derivative works here at Wikipedia need a source and license for the original work as well as for the photograph of them. (The United States also does not have freedom of panorama for artistic works.) In this case, if the fountain had not been modified from its original 1895 configuration, the license tag would have been PD-1923. Since it has been redesigned, I think it likely that the tag would have to be non-free 3D art. That doesn't mean the item would necessarily have to be deleted, just that we would have to satisfy the provisions of WP:NFCC to keep a photo of the fountain. Kelly  hi! 21:18, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Another option would be to contact the artist, Steven Rosenberg of Stamford, and request permission. See WP:COPYREQ for instructions on how to do this. Kelly  hi! 21:52, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:CIRCUS.jpg

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 * Two different images in history, both lacking evidence of permission. Kelly  hi! 20:06, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:Stephen D. Lee monument.JPG

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 * File:Stephen D. Lee monument.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Incomplete/unverifiable source information. The only source given is the National Park Service, which didn't even exist at the time this photo was taken (1909). Did a search of the Library of Congress and had Google do an image search - all of them pointed to this page as the source. It's probably public domain but per WP:IUP we need an author and evidence of prior publication. Kelly  hi! 20:20, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:Nvatransportcorps.jpg

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 * United States Army unlikely to be the copyright holder of this work. Kelly  hi! 20:43, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:2000-June-15 Both Koreas Presidents meeting at PyoungYang.jpg

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 * I'm having doubts this is a US Government work. BethNaught (talk) 20:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:Andy Soltis 1981.jpg

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 * Here's the familiar logic: subject can't be photographer, hence we must presume they are not the copyright holder, hence they cannot license it to someone else to upload to Wikipedia. BethNaught (talk) 20:58, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:Andy Soltis 2015.jpeg

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 * See above. BethNaught (talk) 20:59, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:Mr A H A Kazi Chairman PIDC in 1974.JPG

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 * Claimed as both PD-self and fair use. Uploader unlikely to be copyright holder. Kelly  hi! 21:00, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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File:Aloha elementary.jpg
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 * File:Aloha elementary.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | [ logs]).


 * Unable to verify source of license of photo. Kelly  hi! 23:36, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Over the past ten years, the USGS has updated their websites as well as the aerial photo imagery; thus, I have no way to prove that something that was uploaded a decade ago was valid at that time. The current USGS site has a different aerial photo on the | current iteration of the map from an updated photo set.  The current photo could be used, but it too will become outdated and future changes to the USGS website will render that one impossible to validate as well.
 * Due to lack of access to a time machine, there is nothing I can offer a proof. Do as you will with the existing photo.
 * Epolk (talk) 02:14, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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