Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2006 August 15

Notability → Notability
The nominated redirect was Nothing, now on AFD. -- Cyde Weys 13:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC) Cross-namespace redirect, inappropriate per WP:ASR. --Mr. L e fty Talk to me! 22:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Strong delete as the namespace switch will confuse many. — Reinyday, 22:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, It has been switched back to Wikipedia:Notability how will this confuse anyone? In fact there is a page for Notablity as a redirect (which is incorrectly spelled). This is a keep. 71.245.197.94 23:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as a cross-namespace redirect. Notability, if it can be an encyclopedia entry at all, should refer to something outside of Wikipedia. The proper place for explaining the term within Wikipedia is at what the redirect points to. Rbraunwa 14:31, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The nominated redirect was deleted by Cyde; however, the given reason for deletion by the user is: content was: ' ' ... we don't have articles that consist solely of redirects to wiktionary. -- ADNghiem501 22:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Please orphan this redirect or somone will re-create it soon (and I can't blame them for that). Kusma (討論) 11:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC) Done. -- User:ADNghiem501
 * Comment. This page has been repeatedly deleted and re-created.  Reviewing the deletion history, none of the deletions qualified under the deliberately narrow criteria for speedy deletion.  The full history has now been restored in order to support a related AFD discussion.  I recommend that this discussion be closed in favor of the AFD discussion.  Rossami (talk) 11:00, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Chernogov Guberniya → Chernigov Governorate
The nominated redirect was speedy-deleted at the request of the author and only contributor. Next time, consider tagging it with db-userreq and it will be speedy-deleted without needing to make a full deletion nomination. Rossami (talk) 22:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

While creating a redirect, Chernogov Guberniya, to Chernigov Governorate, I made a spelling mistake: put an o instead of an i. Should be deleted as an incorrect typographical error. —dima /sb.tk/ 20:03, 15 August 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

Small Korean fleet → Choson Navy
The nominated redirect was Deleted, "documenting a page move" isn't a valid reason to keep a crappy redirect. We're building an encyclopedia here, not a collection of all past things that have happened on Wikipedia. -- Cyde Weys 14:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC) There is no reason why such a name should exist as redirect. This is an attempt to ridicule the Choson navy, which already has plenty of achievements such as those by Admiral Yi. Small Korean fleet is ridiculous. Nobody would ever type "Small Korean fleet" in the 1st place. Wikimachine 00:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. Not a likely search term. Rbraunwa 14:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. The redirect documents the pagemove made by the nominator.  The redirect will point the earlier contributors and readers to the new title.  Rossami (talk) 11:05, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

GTFO → List of Internet slang phrases
The nominated redirect was Kept. —Centrx→talk &bull; 19:06, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

There is nothing about GTFO in the target page. The acronym itself seems to be NN, as it doesn't appear in any of the sites listed as reliable sources on Talk:List of Internet slang phrases. No pages link to GTFO. Owoc 14:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete, no reliable sources have been provided and thus it isn't on the redirected-to page, either. --Kuzaar-T-C- 13:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. Rbraunwa 14:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, you've never heard "Get the fuck out"? A quick Google search reveals some relevant results.  I think it's notable enough to get a one-line entry in List of Internet slang phrases and a redirect.  If we had page counts I could tell you how many people look up what GTFO is, but I don't think it's nonzero.  It comes up fairly often in online games.  -- Cyde Weys  14:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment remember, we are looking for verifiability and not truth. Please add it to the list, and cite a reasonably reliable source if it doesn't appear on any of the current reliable sources for that article, because one admin's word doesn't really prevent it from being removed down the road by a good-faith editor.  Big Nate 37 (T) 15:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep I believe that GTFO is relatively common; keeping the redirect will prevent someone from searching it and creating a page because he/she didn't think that it existed. Hbdragon88 10:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Ivanovich → Joseph Stalin
The nominated redirect was Retargetted to patronymic -- Cyde Weys 14:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC) Ivanovich is the most common (or close to it) patronymic in the Russian language. To redirect it to Stalin is absurd. Stalin's connection with it is is tenuous. Delete, or al leasrt redir to patronymic. - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Change target to patronymic per CrazyRussian. --Mr. L e fty Talk to me! 21:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or change target. Rbraunwa 14:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, poor target choice. Optional redirect per above. -- Kinu t /c  19:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Bitten → Bite
The nominated redirect was Not in the purview of RFD. If you would like, please turn Bitten into a disambig page. -- Cyde Weys 14:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC) Bitten is the name of a popular novel by Kelley Armstrong. Many people typing in "Bitten" would be looking for the novel, and the "Bite" page has no mention or link to the novel- with many who are not familar with wikipedia, it wouldn't occur to them to type in "Bitten (novel)" to find the necessary page. Also, it seems odd to have searches for the word "bitten" redirect to "bite," since there is a novel by the same name. Also, if someone was looking for something to do with the word "bite," they would likely type "bite" since it is the nominative singular form of that word. -Elizabennet 19:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep (though I'm agnostic on the destination of the redirect). The article on the book is already at Bitten (book).  In fact, this redirect was first created as an artifact of the pagemove.  Looking at the inbound links to the existing redirect, they all apply to bite, not to the novel.  If you want to change the destination of the redirect, that should be discussed on the Talk page, not here.  And I note that there already is a disambituation link at the top of bite.  Rossami (talk) 22:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep though I would change the destination fo the redirect to the Bite disambiguation page. — Reinyday, 22:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Toshiko → Toshiko Takaezu
The nominated redirect was Made into a disambiguation page. Thanks User:Pugetbill! —Centrx→talk &bull; 19:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

"Toshiko" is an extremely common Japanese given name. It is confusing and unhelpful to redirect to the entry for a single specific Toshiko when there are so many Toshikos in the world. The Jazz pianist / composer / arranger Toshiko Akiyoshi, for example was known simply as "Toshiko" early in her career.

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Make a disambiguation page with all the different Toshikos on it. --Mr. L e fty Talk to me! 21:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)