Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2006 August 29

All redirects to Long term abuse/The Communism Vandal
The nominated redirect was Deleted (CSD R1). -- JLaTondre 00:10, 30 August 2006 (UTC) These redirects leads to the page Long term abuse/The Communism Vandal, a recently deleted page: -- FrostytheSnowman  ('sup?) 22:46, 29 August 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * WP:WiC
 * WP:WIC
 * WP:TCV
 * WP:☭

Francisco Tello de Guzmán) → Francisco de Tello de Guzmán
The nominated redirect was Deleted (db-author). -- JLaTondre 00:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC) I just created this redirect, but accidentally included some punctuation. I'm made the correct redirect since, and this one serves no purpose. Rbraunwa 22:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

The nominated redirect was deleted by Zoe. - Mailer Diablo 10:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiCaviling → WikiLawyering
Term not used, and not plausible. Result of a move war. &mdash; Arthur Rubin | (talk) 21:59, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, no aid to a reader. Fred Bauder 23:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete bizarre renaming by . &mdash; Dunc|&#9786; 16:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Various strange redirects
The nominated redirect was '''Some previously deleted by Netsnipe. Closing "Circle A" ones as delete'''. -- JLaTondre 01:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC) Divided into 5 subgroups which may have different possible reasoning. I'm recommending delete on all. Any comments related to all of the groups might be placed here, instead of in the individual subgroups. (I'll try to place the RfD tag on all of them over the next 2-3 hours, as I don't have a bot to do it. I'll sign again when done.)  &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 18:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * All tagged. &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 23:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Withdraw most as R from Unicode. I don't have a script which will put them back (actually, I pasted all of these in manually).  Would the closer (JA, if you want to) please include R from Unicode after the redirect.  As no one else has "voted" Delete, those could be speedy keep, so any who wants to could fix it.  &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * All withdrawn are speedy kept and untagged. &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 01:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * What's the justification for deleting them? They all redirect to something useful. SchmuckyTheCat 22:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * They all redirect to something misleading. &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 23:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * They don't look misleading to me. SchmuckyTheCat 00:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep all of them. Arthur Rubin is on some strange and disruptive campaign to delete useful redirects. The redirects can be useful for those who don't know what a character is. Some browsers do not properly display characters. For example, ① (which is a 1 with a circle around it) might be displayed as a square. Someone who wonders what it is, pastes it into the URL, and follows it would be redirected to 1 (number). Then they will realize that the character has something to do with the number one. I do this frequently with characters that I encounter on the Internet and do not display on my browser or that I wish simply to learn about. There is no merit whatsoever in deleting them.  &rArr;  Jarlaxle Artemis   01:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment The ones mapping to Anarchist symbolism are wrong, to begin with, and I have doubts about the ones pointing to Diaeresis and to  Quotation mark.   I'm trying to WP:AGF, but JA has created thousands of redirects which have at most marginal value.  (It should also be noted that not all of the ones I tagged are his &mdash; and I only tagged those of his which could not qualify as R from alternate language or R from mispelling or R from title without diacritics or one of the other plausible R from ... tags .)  If I create Unnecessary redirecting user redirecting to User:JarlaxleArtemis, would there be any objection?  There's no dispute that the redirects are necessary, so — &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 07:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC)  (Italics added 23:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC))
 * Comment It should also be noted that pasting into the URL will generally fail; one has to paste it into the search box for it to work. This is minor, except to show that JA doesn't know what he's talking about, in general.  &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 23:22, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or retarget the redirects to Anarchist symbolism as being misleadingly overspecific (I don't have a good suggestion for retargeting, but if one is offered, that is better than deleting). Keep all others; they seem to be good redirects, and at the least User:Arthur_Rubin has not given any good reason to mass-delete them. --Gavia immer 14:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)) Delete remaining nominations that Arthur Rubin has not withdrawn. Further discussion has justified the assertion that these are incorrect. --Gavia immer 15:32, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Arthur Rubin, you are the one who doesn't know what you are talking about. Pasting into the URL always works. Pasting into the search engine rarely works. You should research your statements before saving bullshit.  &rArr;  Jarlaxle Artemis   01:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Pasting into the URL works in some browsers, but not all. (It doesn't work in the browsers I use at home, for example.)  I haven't had any trouble with pasting it into the search field, though.  &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 20:00, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

From Unicode character to name of glyph

 * ✹ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ❂ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✸ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✷ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✵ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✴ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✶ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✯ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✮ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✭ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✬ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✫ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✪ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * ✩ → Star (glyph) Withdraw
 * Also ★ ☆ ✰ ✦ ≛ ✧ ⋆ ⍟ Withdraw (although one of those isn't a star)
 * ⍣ → Diaeresis

Unicode symbols mapping to (partial) name of the symbol. Recommend substituting in Unicode table(s), and deleting redirect. &mdash; Arthur Rubin | (talk) 18:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * All tagged (including the additional codes) &mdash; Arthur Rubin | (talk) 21:05, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Withdraw all but 1 from this group. The remaining symbol is APL Star Diaeresis.  Redirecting either to Star or Diaeresis would be wrong.  &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 00:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

From Unicode characters to technical term

 * ㎌ → Farad Withdraw
 * ㎋ → Farad Withdraw
 * ㎊ → Farad Withdraw
 * ㎀ → Ampere Withdraw

Unicode symbols mapping to (partial) name of the symbol as a physical unit. Recommend substituting in Unicode table(s), and deleting redirect. &mdash; Arthur Rubin | (talk) 18:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Tagging in this subsection done. &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 20:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * All withdrawn in this group. &mdash; Arthur Rubin | (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

From bracketing symbols to partial name of the symbol

 * 〡 → Vertical bar (change redirect to 1 (number))
 * 〛 → Bracket Withdraw
 * 〚 → Bracket Withdraw
 * 】 → Bracket Withdraw
 * 」 → Quotation mark Withdraw
 * 「 → Quotation mark Withdraw

Unicode symbols mapping to (partial) name of the symbol. Recommend substituting in Unicode table(s), and deleting redirect (but plausibly different from the first one). (Recommend not substituting the last two, as that's not the only use of that symbol.) &mdash; Arthur Rubin | (talk) 18:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Tagging in this subsection done. &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 20:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Withdraw all but one. It's not a vertical bar.  See, for example, http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U3000.pdf . &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

From circled (or otherwise modfied) letters or numbers to that letter or number

 * ⓐ → A  Withdraw
 * ⓑ → B  Withdraw
 * ⓒ → C  Withdraw (maybe this should redirect to Copyright]  -Zapptastic (talk) 20:58, 31 August 2006 (UTC))
 * ⓓ → D  Withdraw
 * ⓔ → E  Withdraw
 * ⓕ → F  Withdraw
 * ⓖ → G  Withdraw
 * ⓗ → H  Withdraw
 * ⓘ → I  Withdraw
 * ⓙ → J  Withdraw
 * ⓚ → K  Withdraw
 * ⓛ → L  Withdraw
 * ⓜ → M  Withdraw
 * ⓝ → N  Withdraw
 * ⓞ → O  Withdraw
 * ⓟ → P  Withdraw
 * ⓠ → Q  Withdraw
 * ⓡ → R  Withdraw
 * ⓢ → S  Withdraw
 * ⓣ → T  Withdraw
 * ⓤ → U  Withdraw
 * ⓥ → V  Withdraw
 * ⓦ → W  Withdraw
 * ⓧ → X  Withdraw
 * ⓨ → Y  Withdraw
 * ⓩ → Z  Withdraw
 * Ⓩ → Z  Withdraw
 * Ⓨ → Y  Withdraw
 * Ⓧ → X  Withdraw
 * Ⓦ → W  Withdraw
 * Ⓥ → V  Withdraw
 * Ⓤ → U  Withdraw
 * Ⓢ → S  Withdraw
 * Ⓠ → Q  Withdraw
 * Ⓟ → P  Withdraw
 * Ⓞ → O  Withdraw
 * Ⓝ → N  Withdraw
 * Ⓜ → M  Withdraw
 * Ⓛ → L  Withdraw
 * Ⓚ → K  Withdraw
 * Ⓙ → J  Withdraw
 * Ⓘ → I  Withdraw
 * Ⓗ → H  Withdraw
 * Ⓖ → G  Withdraw
 * Ⓕ → F  Withdraw
 * Ⓔ → E  Withdraw
 * Ⓓ → D  Withdraw
 * Ⓒ → C  Withdraw
 * Ⓑ → B  Withdraw
 * ⒵ → Z  Withdraw
 * ⒴ → Y  Withdraw
 * ⒳ → X  Withdraw
 * ⒲ → W  Withdraw
 * ⒱ → V  Withdraw
 * ⒰ → U  Withdraw
 * ⒯ → T  Withdraw
 * ⒮ → S  Withdraw
 * ⒭ → R  Withdraw
 * ⒬ → Q  Withdraw
 * ⒫ → P  Withdraw
 * ⒪ → O  Withdraw
 * ⒩ → N  Withdraw
 * ⒨ → M  Withdraw
 * ⒧ → L  Withdraw
 * ⒦ → K  Withdraw
 * ⒥ → J  Withdraw
 * ⒤ → I  Withdraw
 * ⒣ → H  Withdraw
 * ⒢ → G  Withdraw
 * ⒡ → F  Withdraw
 * ⒠ → E  Withdraw
 * ⒟ → D  Withdraw
 * ⒞ → C  Withdraw
 * ⒝ → B  Withdraw
 * ⒜ → A  Withdraw
 * ⠁ → A  Withdraw
 * –·–· → C
 * ℭ → C  Withdraw
 * ⠃ → C  Withdraw


 * Ⓡ → Enclosed R   Withdraw
 * Ⓣ → Enclosed T   Withdraw
 * ⒛ → 20 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒚ → 19 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒙ → 18 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒘ → 17 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒗ → 16 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒖ → 15 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒕ → 14 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒔ → 13 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒓ → 12 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒒ → 11 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒑ → 10 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒐ → 9 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒏ → 8 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒎ → 7 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒍ → 6 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒌ → 5 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒋ → 4 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒊ → 3 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒉ → 2 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒈ → 1 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒇ → 20 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒆ → 19 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒅ → 18 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒄ → 17 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒃ → 16 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒂ → 15 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒁ → 14 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⒀ → 13 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑿ → 12 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑾ → 11 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑽ → 10 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑼ → 9 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑻ → 8 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑺ → 7 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑹ → 6 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑸ → 5 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑷ → 4 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑶ → 3 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑵ → 2 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑴ → 1 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑳ → 20 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑲ → 19 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑱ → 18 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑰ → 17 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑯ → 16 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑮ → 15 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑭ → 14 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑬ → 13 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑫ → 12 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑪ → 11 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑩ → 10 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑨ → 9 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑧ → 8 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑦ → 7 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑥ → 6 (number)  Withdraw
 * ⑤ → 5 (number)  Withdraw
 * ④ → 4 (number)  Withdraw
 * ③ → 3 (number)  Withdraw
 * ② → 2 (number)  Withdraw
 * ① → 1 (number)  Withdraw

Unicode characters (and Morse code for C) to number or letter. Recommend substituting in Unicode table(s), and deleting redirect. &mdash; Arthur Rubin | (talk) 18:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * All tagged (finally). &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 23:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Withdraw all but one (Morse code). Not plausible, the choice of dash and dot symbols means we'd need a number of different redirects for that one to be at all helpful, etc.  &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Circle a

 * Circle a → Anarchist symbolism
 * Circle A→ Anarchist symbolism
 * Circle-a → Anarchist symbolism
 * Circle-A → Anarchist symbolism
 * Ⓐ → Anarchist symbolism  (change redirect to A)

Not the only use of that symbol, so it's a misleading redirect. &mdash; Arthur Rubin | (talk) 18:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * All tagged, I think. &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 20:50, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * But it is a proper use, so it is not misleading.  &rArr;  Jarlaxle Artemis   01:33, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It is misleading. If you could redirect to the section of Anarchist symbolism showing that symbol, it would still be questionable, but I wouldn't consider it misleading.  But you can't.  &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 07:14, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect the symbol to A as R from Unicode, and delete the other redirects, without prejudice to creating a full article about that symbol under Circle A or Circle-A. &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Summary of non-withdrawn RfD

 * ⍣ → Diaeresis


 * 〡 → Vertical bar (change redirect to 1 (number))


 * –·–· → C


 * Circle a → Anarchist symbolism
 * Circle A→ Anarchist symbolism
 * Circle-a → Anarchist symbolism
 * Circle-A → Anarchist symbolism
 * Ⓐ → Anarchist symbolism  (change redirect to A)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

Tell Me Why (1957 song) → Tell Me Why (1956 song)
The nominated redirect was Deleted (db-author). -- JLaTondre 19:51, 29 August 2006 (UTC) I created the original article. I had gotten the incorrect 1957 date somewhere, and moved it when I found out that 1956 was correct. -- BRG 17:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

ˈɛvərɪst → Mount Everest
The nominated redirect was Deleted by Netsnipe. -- JLaTondre 01:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC) Apparent redirect from IPA pronunciation. No one is going enter that IPA correctly, even if they wanted to. &mdash; Arthur Rubin | (talk) 17:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete (although I could enter that IPA correctly if I wanted to!) —The preceding signed comment was added by Angr (talk • contribs). 18:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep; no reason to delete.  &rArr;  Jarlaxle Artemis   04:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Are we going to have redirects to every article from its IPA pronunciation? This is just silly. Voortle 22:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Sp:Us → Special:Userlogin
The nominated redirect was Deleted, redirects to special pages don't work. -- JLaTondre 19:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC) Nonfunctional cross-namespace redirect to a Special: namespace page--Gavia immer 15:53, 29 August 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

Talk:Fired Up → Talk:Fired Up (video game)
The nominated redirect was Redirect blanked. -- JLaTondre 21:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC) Talk page redirect. The dab page should have its own talk page... the new location of the old article that was at Fired Up is listed as one of the dab results. Robwingfield (talk) 11:18, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No need to list it here. You can just remove the redirect yourself. Voortle 00:30, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've listed here so that the talk page is deleted. Of course I know I can remove the redirect myself...  Robwingfield (talk) 11:18, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not necessary to delete the talk page. Removing the redirect is all that needs to be done. Voortle 19:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

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Takemusu aikido → Takemusu Aikido
The nominated redirect was Kept. -- JLaTondre 01:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC) only capitalization difference Timtsai 06:33, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep, plausible search term --Gavia immer 15:53, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Neutral; Wikipedia's Go button handles these automatically, so it doesn't help with the search (and this is not a situation in which we want to aid accidental linking, as it would encourage the use of incorrect capitalisation in the article it's being linked to from). However, it probably isn't worth the database space to delete this, as it's doing no harm. --ais523 13:32, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Links with incorrect capitalization are quickly found and easily fixed.  The redirect keeps someone from (again) creating a duplicate article in the mistaken belief that we don't yet cover this topic.  Rossami (talk) 23:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)