Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2006 December 7

Windows 5.1 → Windows XP
The result of the debate was Kept. -- JLaTondre 22:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC) Useless redirection for the sake of redirection will not be permitted on this wiki, thank you. 72.68.70.141 02:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Comment ...huh? Try giving an actual reason. Danny Lilithborne 02:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Microsoft doesn't give numbers to their software anymore. That went out with Windows 3.11 for Workgroups. I hope that's an "actual" enough for you. Creation of waste, such as this redirect, is orders of magnitude easier than removing said waste. HAND. 72.68.70.141 03:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. GetVersionEx does return version numbers higher than 3.11.  (eg. Win95&rArr;4.0, WinNT&rArr;4.0, Win98&rArr;4.10, WinMe&rArr;4.90, Windows 2000&rArr;5.0, XP&rArr;5.1, Windows Server 2003&rArr;5.2, etc)  I'm not familiar enough with them to know how often end-users actually see these numbers, but but for what it's worth, the Windows Server 2003 article does mention it's internally v5.2, and Windows 98 mentions it's v4.10.  --Interiot 05:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep per Interiot. Gavia immer (u|t|c)  16:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep I have never heard anyone refer to XP by version number. However it is the techical term so it should redirect to the common name.Koweja 01:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

620 KTAR → KTAR
The result of the debate was Kept. Target currently discusses KTAR 620. If target becomes a disambig, then redirect can be changed to point to new target. -- JLaTondre 22:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC) The target article now covers a station on 92.3 FM too, and is headed for disambiguation country come the new year (see Talk:KTAR). News 92.3 TTV/ 620 TTV/860 TTV 23:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

John of Saint Thomas → John
The result of the debate was retargeted to John of St. Thomas. TimBentley (talk) 05:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC) Target page is not appropriate/useful and lists the redirect creating a loop Gil Gamesh 10:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Comment this redirect has now been retargeted to John of St. Thomas. Khatru2 03:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

as of → As of
The result of the debate was Deleted. -- JLaTondre 13:51, 16 December 2006 (UTC) Two issues: 1) We shouldn't have cross-namespace redirects from simple English phrases, because it's too easy to accidentally link to Wikipedia: space from normal articles.  2) The redirect currently has quite a few backlinks from mainspace articles due to editors attempting to link to one of the Category:Redirects from "As of" links. Most of the cases I've seen can and really do need to be changed to one of those more specific links. I'm happy to fix these cases, however this cross-namespace redirect should be removed afterwards to prevent accidental linking to Wikipedia: space. --Interiot 18:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete: this is a particularly harmful CNR. TimBentley (talk) 05:02, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: The purpose of this is to accept incoming links from phrases like "As of 2006", explaining the usage of "as of" in Wikipedia. Philwelch 06:12, 15 December 2006 (UTC)