Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2006 October 18

Johnny Cade → The Outsiders
The nominated redirect was redirected to The Outsiders (novel) and Be Bold. John Vandenberg 06:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC) Should be a bigger article. No redirection. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.128.32.58 (talk • contribs). 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Comment If it should be a bigger article, why don't you write it? At least a stub? --Trovatore 00:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep (by the way now redirecting to The Outsiders (novel)): invalid reason for deletion. It probably should be an article since other characters do, but until then it should be a redirect. TimBentley (talk) 00:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

DTB → Tom Leykis
The nominated redirect was Converted to disambig. Relationship to target is at Leykis 101. I'm not sure that's worth including, but there are enough other uses for a disambig so that becomes a content issue. -- JLaTondre 00:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC) Rescued from Special:Shortpages after having been blanked. Nobody can tell how this relates to the target. Unless someone can figure it out, it's probably not useful. - CrazyRussian talk/email 23:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Speedy delete. There is no reason for this to be a redirect -- it should be a 3CC.  John Vandenberg 23:22, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Nintendo 128 → Nintendo GameCube
The nominated redirect was Kept. -- JLaTondre 01:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC) I've never seen or heard the GameCube referred to as the Nintendo 128. Does anyone ever call it that? If not, then the redirect makes no sense and should be deleted. Voortle 21:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Comment. A quick google search shows that the Nintendo 128 was a guess at the name of Nintendo's next console back in the late 90s.  Of course, Nintendo chose differently. &mdash;   Da rk Sh ik ar i   talk /contribs  13:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Dark Shikari, it is reasonably plausible that someone reads an article from the late 90s mentioning the Nintendo 128 and looks it up on Wikipedia to see what became of it. Dave 15:59, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Nintendo 128 was a hypothetical name that was used for YEARS before the console received the "Dolphin" codename. --- RockMFR 03:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * '''Keep-*** I have personally heard it referred to by that name. -Toptomcat 19:38, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Matty-chan 03:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

"Basij" in Iraq → Iran's Islamic foreign policy
The nominated redirect was Deleted. -- JLaTondre 01:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC) I made several key wrong assumptive mistakes and chose wrong titles. Patchouli 03:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. Basij in Iraq is more appropriate. John Vandenberg 05:06, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per John. Also, since you created this yourself, you can tag it with  which will be faster than this RfD.  Dar-Ape 23:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Iran's foreign policy → Iran's Islamic foreign policy
The nominated redirect was Re-targeted & withdrawn. Creator & nominator are the same person. -- JLaTondre 11:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC) This article is not about the entire foreign policy, only the Islamic aspects. Iran's Islamic foreign policy is a sub-article of foreign relations of Iran. Patchouli 03:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Foreign relations of Iran. — TKD::Talk 05:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I did.--Patchouli 07:41, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

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Lebesgue measure argument → Lebesgue measure argument for uncountability of the reals
The nominated redirect was Deleted. -- JLaTondre 01:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC) The article should be merged (well, smerged) somewhere, but the redirect needs to be deleted; there are a ton of Lebesgue measure arguments, and they're not going to get individual articles, so a dab page is out. --Trovatore 05:19, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

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 * Delete. The redirected name is much better than the original one. I don't see the original name as something that a lot of people are going to expect to be present in WP. —David Eppstein 06:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete for the same reasons as David Eppstein. John Vandenberg 05:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Could be a disambig, but no one at Wikiproject Mathematics wants to try.  &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 18:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Southcote, Bedfordshire → Southcote, Bedfordshire
The nominated redirect was Deleted. -- JLaTondre 01:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC) Name has non-standard punctuation, a space before the comma. Article moved to the correct name over a year ago. JonH 13:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep. I wouldn't like to see people creating this sort of rd on purpose, but as long as it's there, it's not hurting anybody. Maybe it'll save someone a few seconds when he mistypes the name in the search box. --Trovatore 15:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, plausible typo Gavia immer (u|t|c)  16:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete Harmless, but a bit unnecessary.-- Hús  ö  nd  00:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Harmless, but search engines need to store two pages and return two results.  John Vandenberg 05:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

EMT64
The nominated redirect was Kept. -- JLaTondre 01:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC) The title of this page is a typo; there was only one article (IA-32) linking to it - I have now fixed it to link to the correct spelling, and hence there are no articles linking to it now. Letdorf 16:17, 18 October 2006 (UTC). 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. Can't even see how you get this typo. --Trovatore 17:40, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. EMT64 is a common term. EMT64 returns 346,000 results. John Vandenberg 05:15, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, could be quite frequent typo (TLA + 64 is common pattern, as in AXP64 - the Alpha). Pavel Vozenilek 14:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Metrified Imperial system → Plan for Establishing Uniformity in the Coinage, Weights, and Measures of the United States
The nominated redirect was Deleted. -- JLaTondre 01:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC) This page had a been redirect which had resulted from a page move. I moved the page. I'm the only one who has edited it since the move. I nonimate it for deletion.

I had moved the page to Metrified English unit. That page was then moved to Plan for Establishing Uniformity in the Coinage, Weights, and Measures of the United States. I nominated Metrified English unit for deletion. The reasons given are listed here.

Uncle G speedily deleted Metrified English unit on the following two grounds.

The author and sole editor of the page has nominated it for deletion, so if the redirect is a bad name it qualifies for speedy deletion. If the redirect isn't a mistake, but rather the page move was, the subsequent edits by the editor who did the move prevent other editors from reverting the mistake, and deleting the edited redirect lets ordinary editors sort this out at their leisure without need for administrator intervention.

The same argument applies to Metrified Imperial system only this name is arguably worse than Metrified English unit because not only does the target page have nothing to do with metrification but it has nothing to do with the imperial system either. Jimp 00:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

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 * Delete. I don't think we should be using author request as a speedy deletion criterion on redirects that result after page moves.  But I agree with Jimp's reasons for deletion.  Mango juice talk 20:24, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Yeah, using author request as a speedy deletion criterion on redirects that result after page moves could potentially lead to abuse. Jimp 10:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Now read the second sentence quoted above. Uncle G 16:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I'll just mention that there are not incoming links to Metrified Imperial system except those from pages which deal with its deletion or the deletion of Metrified English unit. Jimp 10:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)