Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 August 15

Template:Calendat today → Template:Calendar today
The result of the debate was delete. WjBscribe 17:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC) Template redirect without any conceivable use. --MZMcBride 22:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Hmmm, borderline case. We normally keep redirects from misspellings after tagging them as R from misspelling, but I'm not sure that that's necessary or useful for templates, which are rarely search targets.  I'm inclined to say delete, but am willing to listen to counterarguments.  Xtifr tälk 23:35, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Xtifr. Redirects from misspellings are useful only if the mispelling is a plausible search term, which is not generally the case with templates, especially ones (like this one) that are not too frequently used. — Black Falcon (Talk) 03:00, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If this was a mainspace redirect, I might be inclined to agree with meschach. However, templates are generally not search terms. Anyone searching for this template will likely know the correct title. — Black Falcon (Talk) 16:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, redirects are cheap. This is unlikely but not implausible. meshach 20:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, misspellings should not have incoming links, and templates are not typical search terms so redirect will only be used in links, if at all. Kusma (talk) 07:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

A Sharp (programming language) → A♯
The result of the debate was Disambig. -- JLaTondre 02:42, 16 August 2007 (UTC) Target article is not about the programming language, but the musical term. An article for the programming language does not presently exist. — Swpbtalk|edits 15:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC) 15:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Comment: An article on the programming langugae presently exists at A Sharp (.NET). I've changed the target of the redirect there. I don't think anything else needs to be done. — Gavia immer (talk) 16:18, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! — Swpbtalk|edits 15:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC) 16:20, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * There's actually another programming language with this name (A Sharp (Axiom)). I think a disambig page or some dablinks are in order. There's also A Sharp programming language, another similar redirect. --- RockMFR 20:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

WPS:
The result of the debate was delete. WjBscribe 23:59, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * WPS:ART → WikiProject Scouting/Article layout
 * WPS:ATT → WikiProject Scouting/Articles needing attention
 * WPS:CAP → WikiProject Scouting/Capitalization
 * WPS:CAT → WikiProject Scouting/Categories
 * WPS:CITES → WikiProject Scouting/References
 * WPS:ENG → WikiProject Scouting/English
 * WPS:FUR → WikiProject Scouting/Fair use rationale
 * WPS:IMAGE → WikiProject Scouting/Images
 * WPS:LINK → WikiProject Scouting/Links
 * WPS:LIST → WikiProject Scouting/Lists
 * WPS:LOCALBSA → WikiProject Scouting/Local Scouting articles (BSA)
 * WPS:MEM → WikiProject Scouting/Members
 * WPS:MMD → WikiProject Scouting/Merging, moving and deleting articles
 * WPS:MOS → WikiProject Scouting/RulesStandards
 * WPS:NAMES → WikiProject Scouting/Article names
 * WPS:ORGS → WikiProject Scouting/Organizations
 * WPS:REF → WikiProject Scouting/References
 * WPS:REQ → WikiProject Scouting/Requirements
 * WPS:SCOPE → WikiProject Scouting/Scope
 * WPS:SCOUT → WikiProject Scouting
 * WPS:STYLE → WikiProject Scouting/Style
 * WPS:TEMP → WikiProject Scouting/Templates
 * WPS:USER → WikiProject Scouting/Userboxes

Specifically, every single redirect starting with "WPS:", as listed here. These are all non-standard and unnecessary redirects to mostly-unused subpages of the Wikiproject Scouting.  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  10:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * And you know they're "mostly-unused" how? And what does that have to do with it anyway? If it's non-standard that's one thing, but "mostly-unused" is superfluous and irrelevant.Rlevse 21:56, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * From edit history. The point is that it may be undesirable to change the redirect to a heavily-used page, because a lot of people would arguably be using that redirect.  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  08:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, invalid pseudo-namespace.  Mel sa  ran  12:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete; we shouldn't propagate unneeded pseudo-namespaces. — Gavia immer (talk) 14:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep unless/until properly tagged. An explicit list of redirects is important; what if I legitimate redirect is created starting with WPS: during this discussion? Unlikely, but still. Moreover, having the redirects rfd tagged is necessary; what if this winds up at DRV once they're gone because that's the first time the people using them notice they're missing?  Big Nate 37 (T) 19:20, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * All tagged now. --- RockMFR 20:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I would have done it were I not busy. Delete them all.  Big Nate 37 (T) 21:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all as redirects from a non-standard pseudo-namespace. A WP:Sxxx or WP:S-xxx redirect is no longer or shorter, but at least is a standard formulation. — Black Falcon (Talk) 21:26, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Question Is there a proper alternative? I know I use WPS:FUR, WPS:REF and WPS:CITES several times daily.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 22:35, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah- I believe I see how this should work. Discussion after the fact seems to work sometimes. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 23:02, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - Invalid pseudo-namespace. The only alternative is to use WP:SCOUT/ART, WP:SCOUT/ATT, etc., like the rest of the WikiProjects.  Cool Blue  talk to me 20:30, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Technically, it's not the only alternative. They could also do WP:S-ART, WP:SCOUTART, WP:SCOUT-ART, and so on, although there's no need to do more than one of these. Apparently the first style has already been adopted. — Black Falcon (Talk) 20:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. I created these and they can be deleted.  I see where I went wrong.  If I had simply been apprised of the issues, I would have put the new shortcuts in place and performed a speedy self-nom on these.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 11:30, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Transformers G1 Toy List → Category:Transformers
The result of the debate was delete. WjBscribe 23:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC) Delete - cross-space redirect that serves no purpose. Otto4711 01:26, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete per nom. — Black Falcon (Talk) 21:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. I actually thought that cross-namespace redirects from mainspace were a criterion for speedy deletion, but it seems this is only true for redirects to User: Talk: or User Ualk: ....oh well... Davidprior 10:35, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:Footnote3text → Template:Footnotestext
The result of the debate was delete. WjBscribe 23:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC) Template redirect without any conceivable use. --MZMcBride 02:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as an implausible search term with no significant incoming links. — Black Falcon (Talk) 21:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: not a plausible misspelling, not useful as a template shortcut. Yes, redirects are cheap, but this seems over-the-top to me.  Xtifr tälk 23:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:L2t → Template:Listtable
The result of the debate was delete.  Daniel  01:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC) Template redirect without any conceivable use. --MZMcBride 02:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as an implausible search term with no significant incoming links. — Black Falcon (Talk) 21:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep: this one is actually slightly useful as a shortcut. Adding "  " to an article is a little easier than adding "  ", at least for poor typists. :)  Xtifr tälk 23:44, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment No one's ever done that. --MZMcBride 15:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably true, but redirects are cheap, and this has at least the possibility of being useful. Xtifr tälk 22:57, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Its as implausible a shortcut as a search term- not sure how someone would even know using L2t is an option. I suspect there are more logical choices if someone wanted a shorter name for the template, and it would probably be best for them to create it at that time. WjBscribe 23:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:LA Neighbrhoods Template → Template:Los Angeles
The result of the debate was delete. WjBscribe 23:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC) Template redirect without any conceivable use. --MZMcBride 02:45, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as an implausible search term with no significant incoming links. — Black Falcon (Talk) 21:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:LGS → Template:Globalize
The result of the debate was delete.  Daniel  01:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC) Template redirect without any conceivable use. --MZMcBride 02:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as an implausible search term with no significant incoming links. — Black Falcon (Talk) 21:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep as marginally useful shortcut, as with L2t above. Redirects are cheap.  Xtifr tälk 23:45, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Its as implausible a shortcut as a search term- not sure how someone would even know using LGS is an option. I suspect there are more logical choices if someone wanted a shorter name for the template, and it would probably be best for them to create it at that time. WjBscribe 23:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Wp:BlockLog → WP:BLOCKLOG
The result of the debate was delete. WjBscribe 23:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC) This redirect uses an invalid prefix. --Spring Rubber 07:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete per nom. — Black Falcon (Talk) 21:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unlike other wp: redirects recently kept, I find it highly unlikely that this is or will be typed into the address bar due to the odd CamelCase used. No incoming links. --- RockMFR 21:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, the CamelCase seems to defeat the whole purpose of the highly-controversial "Wp:" psuedo-namespace. Xtifr tälk 23:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per CamelCase usage.  Cool Blue  talk to me 20:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC)