Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 December 7

December 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion on December 7, 2007

Punk metal → Metalcore
The result of the debate was no consensus. John Reaves 01:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC) Punk metal (if it exists) is far broader than metalcore which is a new and specific combination of punk and metal. Kameejl (Talk) 13:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep If someone were to type the term "punk metal" in the searchbox, what else would they be looking for. There are no other genres that even come close to the term "punk metal". It's a nomination based on technicality and not really a good reason to nominate a redirect. Thundermaster TRUC 15:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC) 14:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * comment they might be looking for deathcore, Thrashcore, crust punk, sludge metal, grindcore or any other punk/metal hybrid. Since NWOBHM a lot of punk/metal hybrids have risen. "There are no other genres that even come close to the term "punk metal"." is bias. Kameejl (Talk) 15:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * All those genres are linked to from metalcore, so anyone searching for 'punk metal' will still find them. I don't say Keep, as metalcore appears to be the main topic article for these metal/punk hybrids. Terraxos (talk) 21:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems to be like it but it is incorrect. Metalcore is a late 1990s phenomenon. Punk/metal hybrids exist since the late 1970s (fe NWOBHM). Kameejl (Talk) 10:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * However, although there may be many other punk metal hybrids, how many of them are ever known as punk metal? Thundermaster TRUC 15:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC) 09:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment. The Punk Metal article was deleted per Articles for deletion/Punk metal on 7 December, which is why it is now a redirect. Another suggested redirect target was Hardcore Punk, which might not be a bad redirect. ZZ Claims~ Evidence 20:33, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * DeletePunk metal can refer to various genres that are fusions of punk and metal, as stated above, not just metalcore. I don't know of metalcore really being called punk metal as an alternative name anyway. If it should redirect to anything it should be crossover thrash which is part of the thrash metal article. Munci (talk) 02:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: What I'd like to add to this discussion is that this redirect directs us from a general topic (punk metal, a hybrid of 2 main genres) to the specific topic metalcore. These general to specific topic redirects often are no good idea. It's just like WW2 (World War II) would redirect to Battle of France, or Tree would redirect to Christmas tree. Just like these 2 examples, this redirect wouldn't really help the average reader, or even worse, it could mislead the average reader (one might think metalcore is the only or most important punk metal hybrid). It should be removed. Kameejl (Talk) 15:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Keep the punk metal article! Just fuck off about metalcore and punk metal being the same thing. Punk metal is according to me crossover thrash bands like Stormtroopers of Death and DRI, as well as very raw speed metal like Motörhead. Metalcore is a modern fad that I relate to post-hardcore, alternative metal, thrash metal, hardcore punk and emocore. Bands include Bullet for my Valentine and Trivium. If you're able to find a slight similarity in sound of, let's say, Stormtroopers of Death and Bullet for my Valentine, you're deaf, dumb or listen to rap music. And by the way, the genre of S.O.D at their info page now redirect to metalcore, something that pisses me of because it is incorrect and a fucking disgrace.

Remove that stupid shit. Punk metal is a genre on it's own, and it's far from metalcore. And don't even try to argue here because you all know that I'm right.--Gustav Lindwall (talk) 21:01, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was speedy deleted by Oxymoron83 following request of sole author (CSD G7). WjBscribe 05:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC) Created page in wrong namespace. Please delete — Noetic  Sage  16:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - as you're the creator and only editor of this shortcut, you can use db-self to request speedy deletion under CSD-G7. – Tivedshambo (talk) 19:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

High Speed 1temp → High Speed 1
The result of the debate was delete. Wizardman 04:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC) Residual redirect from complex page move in November – Tivedshambo (talk) 19:44, 7 December 2007 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete, left over from somebody renaming Channel Tunnel Rail Link back and forth. —Sladen (talk) 09:49, 8 December 2007 (UTC)